Certainly the projects have a role beyond content—in particular, they, not the foundation, are what the public sees. They are what it is needed to publicise (I don’t like to use the term “marketing “ — that’s the way the foundation speaks) and this is a key role of the chapters.
The obvious role of the foundation, besides the basic central services, is to deal with its natural counterparts—formal organisations such as governments and copyright agencies. I recognise the need for coordination and the possible need to intervene to maintain minimum standards. But these are historically dangerous roles, for “protection “ against potential forces that might oppose our values has an ominous potential also.— DGG Obviously I speak only for myself—assume the appropriate qualifications before every phrase > On Jul 10, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Bill/Will mentioned this might be a new organisational chart of the Wikimedia > Foundation. Of course, visuals differ depending on what you are trying to > visualize. > > This one for instance would be more along the lines of what you, Dgg, are > mentioning: how the different parties are involved in our projects. This one > would be more about how content on the projects is governed, and the > different layers in responsibilities we have. This one is more about how > content is added to projects (example in this case: Wikimedia Commons): this > is a visualisation on the parties that re-use our content outside of the > projects. > > It would probably be impractical (or impossible even?) to put everything in > one visual without the purpose of the illustration becoming too broad, and > the chart or visual therefore surpassing its purpose (visual support for a > concept). > > Vriendelijke groet, > Ciell > > > Op vr 9 jul. 2021 om 23:16 schreef Dggenwp <dgge...@gmail.com>: >> The projects are the route by which content is added to Wikipedia. The >> purpose of Wikipedia is not to have an organisation—the purpose is to have >> and distribute free content. Everything else is superstructure—everything >> except the individual volunteers and the projects. This superstructure can >> be important, but not essential — the volunteers are capable of organising >> themselves and maintaining the projects. The foundation by itself is capable >> of almost nothing, as it doesn’t add content. The chapters are of value, >> primarily in recruiting contributors—without that, they’d just be social >> clubs. >> >> The volunteers and the projects to which they add content are what matters. >> The three key functions of the organisation are maintaining MediaWiki (but >> that’s a volunteer effort also) in raising the small amount of essential >> funding, and the critically important political work of supporting freedom >> of the internet and of speech more generally. But our influence for this is >> because people in the world use the content the volunteers add to the >> projects. The structure must be organised around them. We are here to build >> an encyclopaedia. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Jul 7, 2021, at 12:59 AM, Željko Blaće <zbl...@mi2.hr> wrote: >>>> >>> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Thank you Bill, I always find organisation charts very much enlightening, >>>> and have been missing something like it for the WMF for some time now. >>> >>> I feel the same. We need much much more of diagramatic content and higher >>> level of organizational understanding for all Wikimedia contributors. >>> >>> >>>> I think all the departments of the WMF-side are equal, right? For >>>> instance, legal has no higher 'status' then fundraising or research: >>>> employees are equals, just with a different function in the >>>> organisation.Therefore all the different departments should be presented >>>> in a horizontal line, not a vertical one, like in this one for example. >>> >>> Kind of good point, but maybe scale (same size) is enough to represent >>> equals, rather than direction/orientation? Not an expert. >>> >>> BTW. >>> .svg file export would be best >>> for the posibility of translation >>> within Wikimedia Commons ;-) >>> >>> >>> Best, Z. >>> >>>> Vriendelijke groet, >>>> Ciell >>>> >>>> >>>> Op di 6 jul. 2021 om 01:03 schreef Bill Takatoshi >>>> <billtakato...@gmail.com>: >>>>> Earlier today I tried to predict what the WMF org chart will look >>>>> like, but I wasn't confident about my suggestion, so I created a new >>>>> email account, subscribed it to wikimedia-l, and tried to send from >>>>> there. I learned that new subscribers are moderated, which seems >>>>> sensible given the level of trolling and disruption, and have since >>>>> improved the prediction and become more confident about it. I have >>>>> since learned that HTML email with embedded email attachments aren't >>>>> allowed either, so, Moderators, please reject my earlier anonymous >>>>> submission(s). >>>>> >>>>> This is what I predict the Wikimedia organizational chart will look >>>>> like in one year's time: >>>>> >>>>> https://i.ibb.co/HPzpqLt/WMF-orgchart.png >>>>> >>>>> Please critique it! 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