Hi Karen,

FYI I am also super interested in bibliographies -- one of my (many) pet
projects is promoting bibliographies & further reading lists in articles.
I'd be glad to talk more about this offline, or on the libraries list! (
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries)

cheers,
-- phoebe

On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Karen Coyle <kco...@kcoyle.net> wrote:

> Sue, sorry we won't see you, but another time, for sure.
>
> This connects up to Asaf's desire to work on bibliographies, I think. I,
> too, am very interested in that. My goal would be to have a set of good
> readings on as many of the topics in Wikipedia that we can cover. Not a
> giant-o complete list of everything written, but perhaps a "start here,
> continue on to..." There's no use giving folks a list of 3000 books and
> articles on a topic if you don't give them a starting point. So I've been
> reading up on principles of bibliography, classification, etc., and I think
> this is something that we can do that is totally useful.
>
> If I get a chance I'll make a short bibliography of these on Zotero or
> something, so that they don't get lost.
>
> kc
>
>
> On 8/27/13 11:33 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:
>
>> Gah. I just realized I'm out of town that weekend so I won't be at the
>> editathon. That's a shame --- I'd been looking forward to it.
>>
>> FWIW though, in case anybody wants to edit on transgender issues, here
>> are the books I've been working from. I'm not saying they're the best,
>> but they seem fine :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sue
>>
>> * Men Trapped in Men's Bodies: Narratives of Autogynephilic
>> Transsexualism By Anne A. Lawrence
>> * Principles and Practice of Sex Therapy, Fourth Edition edited by
>> Sandra R. Leiblum
>> * Clinical Skills in Infant Mental Health By Louise Newman, Beulah Warren
>> * Whipping Girl:A Transsexual Woman on Sexism and the Scapegoating of
>> Femininity by Julia Serano (*this one's great for general orientation to
>> the topic)
>> * Gender Circuits: Bodies and Identities in a Technological Age By Eve
>> Shapiro
>> * Beyond Sexuality By Tim Dean
>> * The Health of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender People By
>> Committee on Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Health Issues and
>> Research Gaps and Opportunities, Board on the Health of Select
>> Populations, Institute of Medicine
>> * The Riddle of Gender By Deborah Rudacille
>> * Transitions: A Guide to Transitioning for Transsexuals and Their
>> Families By Mara Drummond
>> * Gender Dysphoria and Disorders of Sex Development: Progress in Care
>> and Knowledge (Focus on Sexuality Research) [Hardcover]
>> Baudewijntje P.C. Kreukels (Editor), Thomas D. Steensma (Editor),
>> Annelou L.C. de Vries (Editor)
>> * Perspectives on Human Sexuality By Anne Bolin, Patricia Whelehan
>> * Human Sexuality: Biological, Psychological, and Cultural Perspectives
>> By Anne Bolin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 August 2013 16:23, Karen Coyle <kco...@kcoyle.net
>> <mailto:kco...@kcoyle.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     OK, you can be the reference librarian!
>>
>>     kc
>>
>>
>>     On 8/26/13 1:59 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:
>>
>>         I'll come with a VPN set up to UCB's campus that will allow me
>>         to pull
>>         down articles from almost all academic journals for people as
>>         needed.
>>
>>         ----
>>         Kevin Gorman
>>
>>
>>         On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Sue Gardner
>>         <sgard...@wikimedia.org <mailto:sgard...@wikimedia.org**>
>>         <mailto:sgard...@wikimedia.org
>>
>>         <mailto:sgard...@wikimedia.org**>__>> wrote:
>>
>>              I usually find my sources through Google Books (plus I have
>>         a hard
>>              copy of Julia Serano's Whipping Girl). I'll check my Google
>>         Books
>>              bookmarks, probably tonight, and send them to this list.
>>         The journal
>>              subscriptions will be really useful for me too -- I don't
>> have
>>              access to anything that's not publicly available.
>>
>>              Thanks,
>>              Sue
>>
>>              On Aug 26, 2013 1:06 PM, "Karen Coyle" <kco...@kcoyle.net
>>         <mailto:kco...@kcoyle.net>
>>              <mailto:kco...@kcoyle.net <mailto:kco...@kcoyle.net>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>                  Sue, great. Do you have a sense of what your sources
>>         will be?
>>                  I'm thinking that we could have some "reference
>>         materials" in
>>                  the room on our topics. In addition, BPL has some journal
>>                  subscriptions that might be useful. (SFPL has more, if
>>         you have
>>                  a library card with them.)
>>
>>                  I know what you mean about "actually editing."
>>         Sometimes you
>>                  don't get much done, but I find I do get a lot of
>>         stimulation
>>                  for later edits.
>>
>>                  kc
>>
>>                  On 8/26/13 11:44 AM, Sue Gardner wrote:
>>
>>                      I'm planning to come, and I'm going to try to edit
>>         on some
>>                      trans topics
>>                      ("gender identity disorder" and stuff like that),
>>         since they are
>>                      presumably getting a lot of traffic these days, and
>> the
>>                      articles aren't
>>                      very good.
>>
>>                      (That said, my track record of actually editing at an
>>                      editathon is
>>                      pretty poor: I mostly end up talking or hanging
>>         out, not
>>                      editing. But I
>>                      am going to try.)
>>
>>                      Thanks,
>>                      Sue
>>
>>                      On Aug 25, 2013 3:00 PM, "Kevin Gorman"
>>         <kgor...@gmail.com <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com>
>>                      <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com
>> >>
>>                      <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com> <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com
>>         <mailto:kgor...@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>
>>                           I would be more than happy to provide an intro
>>         in that
>>                      slot - I've
>>                           done a lot of similar presentations for
>> education
>>                      program events and
>>                           for editathons.  I usually use
>>         
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_**___Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/____Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>
>>         
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>         
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>
>>         
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHEATSHEET>>>
>> as my basic
>>                           handout type thing; it can be printed out, but
>>         we can
>>                      also just give
>>                           people the link (since presumably everyone
>>         will have a
>>                      laptop with
>>                           them.)  There are a few others floating
>>         around, but I think
>>                           WP:CHEATSHEET is the easiest/most compact to
>> use.
>>
>>                           I'll also try to come up with some possible
>>         topics and
>>                      add them to
>>                           the editathon page within the next few days.
>>
>>                           Thanks,
>>                           Kevin Gorman
>>
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