"I don’t know how it is in other countries, but we just don’t have the ability to construct such a database without a massive manual effort."
Is it possible to pin the monuments on a collaborative google map, then export the data needed? On 19/05/2014 11:04 AM, "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raym...@gmail.com> wrote: > I can add a little more as I was in the loop of some email > conversations in 2013. > > > > A big problem for us to participate in WLM is the expectation that we can > upload a database of monuments including lat/long coordinates for use with > the WLM Mobile app. I don’t know how it is in other countries, but we just > don’t have the ability to construct such a database without a massive > manual effort. Obviously we known of various heritage registers compiled by > the Commonwealth, states, local governments and various other organisations > (National Trust, Engineers Institute, …), but these are generally not > available to us in any electronic format. I’ve been in conversation about > getting the Queensland Heritage Register released under CC-BY license which > is apparently OK in principle, but has yet to actually occur in practice. > Obviously we don’t need to have every possible monument in this database, > which is why we had thought we might start with just war memorials, as the > upcoming Gallipoli centenary means that a lot of effort is going into > documenting war memorials making it more likely we could obtain (or scrape) > the data for a number of states at least. > > > > However, the WLM committee knocked back that idea. As Gnangarra has > already said, we were told war memorials were not acceptable to them as > monuments, despite our attempts to explain the cultural importance of war > memorials in Australia. AFAIK, the conversation with WLM terminated on > that rather unpleasant exchange and has not been resumed. > > > > Personally I would prefer to see a WMAU-takes-War-Memorials in the leadup > to the Gallipoli centenary (25 April 2015) over participating in WLM. > There’s plenty of scope here. In Queensland there are currently over 1300+ > documented war memorials (and no doubt many more undocumented ones), yet > Commons has about 120 photos of them (incidentally, a big barnstar goes to > WMAU member Mattinbgn who took and uploaded many of these Qld war memorial > photos). And of course the impact of WW1 on Australia is more than just > the war memorials, so we could broaden it to WMAU-takes-WW1 and encompass > anything linked to WW1 themes relating to Australia. > > > > Kerry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > wikimediaau-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Gnangarra > *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 10:04 AM > *To:* Australian Wikimedians mailing list > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaau-l] Wiki Loves Monuments > > > > Please note I'm not speak on behalf of WMAU committee and as far as I'm > aware no one has proposed anything to the committee in relation to WLM > > WLM is a complex issue > > As we found out last year if Australia wants to participate in WLM we > cannot run a scaled down version, neither can we include War Memorials > within the scope of WLM as the definition of monuments in this project is > not the english definition. If Australians had participated on that basis > none of our entrants would been eligible for the international aspects so > that would result in a very disappointing outcome for us, if not a very > embarrassing one as well. > > I'm aware that this year the founding country of WLM has withdrawn, that > is a concern if the country the size of Netherlands doesnt have the > capacity to continue then Australia with a significantly smaller user base > and a significantly larger area of distribution will have potentially more > complex capacity issues. > > With this knowledge I can only recommend caution, suggest that there maybe > better alternative given the limit of resources > > > > On 18 May 2014 02:01, Russavia <russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > > Does anyone know if there is going to be an Australian edition of Wiki > Loves Monuments this year? > > The page is up on Commons, but there's nothing there showing an > Australian presence. > > Having an Aussie edition of the comp as a precursor, if there is still > interest, in having a "war memorials" competition in the lead up to > Anzac Day in 2015. > > Anyway, just wanting to put it out there that WLM is open and seeing > if there is any interest in it. > > Cheers, > > Russavia > > >  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014 > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaaufirstname.lastname@example.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > > -- > > GN. > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaauemail@example.com > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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