Give me the possibility to be more detailed.

The post indicates a situation like that of Italy. In Italy the list of
monuments is fragmented and the minister of the cultural heritage has an
old lists or has no list in some regions.

In this case Sweden is building the list: the aim is perfect with that of
Wikipedia because people contributes to list the cultural heritage.

In Switzerland the list of monuments is present, is complete and there is
the opposite problem there are several lists and also the smaller objects
are scheduled and described.

When I was in the Office of the cultural heritage of Canton Ticino, I was
astonished by the detail of this database and only a partial list of
monuments and objects are public or because they are not protected by an
official document of the municipalities or because some details are secret
for security reason.

Honestly I proposed them at least to work with the community to document
these objects with photos... but it will be a different stuff.

Regards



On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Patrick Kenel <patke...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> It's good to mention a security aspect but precious objects in
> churches have less to do with this initiative from Sweden.
>
> Based on this blog post and other Information, I'm convinced that they are
> collecting data of new forms of public art like fountain sculptures or
> objects in the middle of a roundabout. These things obviously lack an
> inventory, and deserve the attention of crowdsourcers. But sometimes these
> art installations are fragile and on temporary display for just a season or
> so, and not permanent as is the case of protected cultural goods. What
> confuses me a bit: the first picture of the blog post shows the old statue
> of a Swedish king, the kind of monument which is typically in the scope of
> Wiki Loves Monuments.
>
> I'm confident that we will somedays see Swiss lists of recent artworks on
> public ground as part of open data initiatives, financed for example by
> lottery funds and with the help of various crowdsourcers. In the
> meantime there is still enough material for contests about protected
> buildings or folklore  (the topic of Living Traditions) where Freedom of
> Panorama is in general guaranteed and no copyright issues might arise like
> in this examplary case:
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskussion:Claes_Oldenburg.
>
> Patrick Kenel
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> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:10:43 +0200
> From: valde...@gmail.com
> To: wikimediach-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediach-l] Public Art Database (Blog-Post from Sweden)
>
>
> The main problem of this kind of project is the security.
>
> This is the main concern of the cantonal office of arts of Ticino, for
> instance.
>
> They would not make public the position of important objects that may be
> stolen (pictures, vestments, altar cloths and holy vessels) mainly in the
> churches.
>
> Some places are not protected by security systems and the public position
> may be a way to define what is precious and what is not.
>
> I think that the simple replication would be not possible.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Estermann Beat <beat.esterm...@bfh.ch>wrote:
>
> Dear all,****
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> I would like to point you to an interesting blog post on creating a Public
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> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/06/05/database-public-art-sweden/****
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