In short, we have the necessary consensus. I think we should go ahead. --Re, --~~~~
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Ashwin Baindur <ashwin.bain...@gmail.com>wrote: > If English Wikipedia is re-energising, thanks to WikiConference & > interested editors coming together, it is only natural that a host of email > threads will follow. Some people prefer that the wikimedia-I list not be > crowded, be generic and kept noise-free. Hisham has explained some of the > thinking. I think that this is enough justification for the new list to > come into existence. > > Indian community growth is going to see at least one mailing list, one > Wikipedia, one Wiktionary, one Wikisource and at least one other Wikimedia > per indic language. In addition we shall be having at least one city > specific mailing list per city. Like it or not there is gonna be a BABEL of > lists whether any one likes it or not. If people need to communicate, there > is going to be growth of lists. If we dont give them mail-man list, there > is nothing to prevent them to go to proprietary free groups such as Google, > Yahoo etc. > > So, the writing is on the wall to come, there is lots of growth to come. > Expect, no, even better, anticipate change. > > > Warm regards, > > Ashwin Baindur > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:34 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < > tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks all for the sharing your thoughts on this. While we have a kind of >> consensus to move ahead with the creation, I wish to understand the >> concerns of those who think it may not be needed. I agree we will have a >> problem with "too many lists " always.. Once each Indian language community >> gets more active and mature, we will need separate mailing lists for the >> better co-ordination and micro collaboration. >> >> I would like to clarify. >> 1) wikimediaindia-l remains the the most important mailing list and >> primary platform for the Wikimedia India community to interact each other. >> 2) This new mailing list is not for replacing on-wiki discussions. >> >> -Tinu Cherian >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Swaroop Rao <raul.swar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Agree with Tinu; What's in a name? ...as long as the list has some >>> proper name, its ok. Also, traffic in the new list might pick up once it is >>> actually started. >>> >>> However, I don't think that this should be used as a substitute for >>> onwiki discussions. >>> >>> Swaroop Rao >>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MikeLynch>) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 15:08, Naveen Francis <navee...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> +1 for new mailing list for Wikimedia projects in English from India. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Bala Jeyaraman >>>> <sodabot...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 to Tinu, >>>>> >>>>> If more traffic starts hitting the list regarding en wiki articles >>>>> (like yesterday), a separate list is an absolute must. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Srikeit <srik...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 to what Tinu said. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Anirudh Bhati <anirudh...@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:31 PM, <wheredevelsd...@hotmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree with Pradeep - there are already too many lists, the last >>>>>>>> thing we need is to follow another for WP:India. Why cant we just >>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>> on wikimediaindia-I? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We should wait for significantly more traffic on discussions around >>>>>>> India-related articles on the English Wikipedia before considering the >>>>>>> creation of a new mailing list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anirudh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> From: tinucher...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:18:30 +0530 >>>>>>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creation of mailing list for >>>>>>>> co-ordination of Indian Wikipedians on English Wikipedia. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My first preference goes for something on the lines of >>>>>>>> "wikimedia-in-eng" , >>>>>>>> basically a list for the Indian Wikipedian community contributing to >>>>>>>> en.wiki and other English Wikimedia projects. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "wikiproject-india-en" was in case there is much "opposition" to >>>>>>>> "oh , we already have a English Wikipedia list " :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Either of the name, I am personally ok, the purpose remains the >>>>>>>> same :D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Tinu Cherian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ashwin Baindur < >>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmmm, my stand has been that the union set of english Wikipedians >>>>>>>> in India with WikiProject India article space also forms another >>>>>>>> genuine >>>>>>>> indic language community - especially since English is the secondary >>>>>>>> official language of our nation. In that case. the community must have >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> list of its own. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi < >>>>>>>> psubhash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMO "wikiproject-india-en" speaks for itself and would be good. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> Subha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30 November 2011 05:50, CherianTinu Abraham < >>>>>>>> tinucher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While wikimediaindia-l is the main mailing list of Wikimedia >>>>>>>> Community in India, a larger discussion of English Wikipedia/ns in >>>>>>>> India or >>>>>>>> WikiProject India on en.wiki is out of scope on wikimediaindia-l and >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> subscribers. While most of the Indian language Wikipedia have >>>>>>>> their separate mailing lists, co-ordination & collaboration among the >>>>>>>> Indian Wikimedians contributing to English Wikipedia has become the >>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>> difficult. English Wikipedia mailing list "wikien-l" is too boarder >>>>>>>> scope >>>>>>>> of discussing them. >>>>>>>> I am aware that we have "too many lists", but it is expected as >>>>>>>> the community grows in size and creation of separate lists is >>>>>>>> justified as >>>>>>>> long as we have enough activity on/around it. I am of the opinion that >>>>>>>> India-related content and community of Indian Wikipedians on English >>>>>>>> Wikipedia is as equally important to grow as Indic language Wikipedias. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In this context, I would propose the creation of a >>>>>>>> "wikimedia-in-eng" or "wikiproject-india-en" mailing list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Tinu Cherian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Ashwin Baindur < >>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Agreed in principle with Pradeep, but let some talk of content take >>>>>>>> place here. I'm sure the majority of wikimedia-l readers do not have >>>>>>>> WT:IN >>>>>>>> on their watchlist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>>>>>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Pradeep Mohandas < >>>>>>>> pradeep.mohan...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the list should be used more as a helpful pointer and as >>>>>>>> much discussion as possible should be done on Wikipedia itself. I think >>>>>>>> there are more lists than Wikipedians can handle and more time is >>>>>>>> spent on >>>>>>>> the lists than on editing Wikipedia, which is what we're primarily >>>>>>>> here for. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> +1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> warm regards, >>>>>>>> Pradeep >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> User:Prad2609 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:14:00 +0530 >>>>>>>> From: parakara.gh...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree more with Swaroop, but since the English wikipedia is >>>>>>>> picking itself up and dusting itself again, we may want one. >>>>>>>> --Re, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Swaroop Rao < >>>>>>>> raul.swar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good idea, but then, shouldn't we be using >>>>>>>> WT:IN<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk%3aIN>for these? :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Swaroop Rao >>>>>>>> (MikeLynch <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User%3aMikeLynch>) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:47, Shiju Alex < >>>>>>>> shijualexonl...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think what Srikanth meant is, creating a separate mailing list >>>>>>>> for English wikipedians from India to discuss their topics of >>>>>>>> interest. I >>>>>>>> too think that is a good idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Shiju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur < >>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that what you mean, Srikanth? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Recognized_content >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was also not aware till Pranav dhowed me the link today. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warm regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ashwin Baindur >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < >>>>>>>> parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ashwin, >>>>>>>> I think the Indian English community needs a list of it's own. >>>>>>>> Re, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ashwin Baindur < >>>>>>>> ashwin.bain...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I found TinuCherianBot had mistakenly made Brian Horrocks, a >>>>>>>> British Army general unconnected with India except for his birth, as >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of WikiProject India, a false positive. Sorry guys, he has nothing to >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> with us. 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