Thanks Yann, this is extremely interesting.
Balasankar, is there an easy to access list of actual or proposed
deletions from Wikisource on similar grounds? (There's an interesting
question on Gandhi here:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Possible_copyright_violations#copyright_status_of_Gandhi.27s_original_works.3F
- but no actions that I can easily see).
On Monday 13 May 2013 04:23 PM, Yann Forget wrote:
Hi Achal,
Please see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_law_deletion_requests
The following are old photos from India deleted because of USA law:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mountbatten_at_Gandhi_cremation.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Times_of_India_front_Page_15_August_1947.png
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Images_of_Life_magazine
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Sardar_patel.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Nargis_in_Awaara_film.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Gandhi_and_Jinnah_Bombay_1944.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Gandhi_and_Mountbatten_drink_tea.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Bapu_and_Baa.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Gandhi_looking.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Abdul_Wahid_Khan.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:V._A._Sundaram_with_C._Rajagopalachari_in_Benares_1948.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:V._A._Sundaram_around_1914.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:V_A_Sundaram,_late_1930s.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Post-1922_paintings_of_Nicholas_Roerich
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Lata_Mangeshkar.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Bhurji_Badeji_Baba.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Aurat_1940.jpg
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Alladiya_Khan.jpg
Regards,
Yann
2013/5/13 Achal Prabhala <aprabh...@gmail.com>:
Hi Yann,
Following on this, do you have some specific examples of Gandhi work
(images, text or whatever) that is in the public domain in India but had a
problem being put on to Commons or Wikisource because of copyright issues in
the US? I suspect that a list of specific cases would be quite useful in
thinking this through.
Cheers,
Achal
On Sunday 12 May 2013 02:42 PM, Yann Forget wrote:
Hello,
Yes, this is a huge problem for Indian content hosted on Wikimedia
servers, and not only for Wikisource, but also for pictures, movies,
sounds, etc. hosted on Wikimedia Commons.
There were quite a few famous images of Mahatma Gandhi deleted for this
reason.
Regards,
Yann
2013/5/9 Balasankar Chelamattath <c.balasan...@gmail.com>:
Hi all,
As most of you know, the Indian copyright law says that a book gets
relieved
of copyright after 60 years from the author's death. But this is not the
case with US Law. As given here , of all the works published outside US,
only those published before 1923 are directly in the public domain. The
ones
published between 1923 and 1977 without compliance to the US formalities
will be in the public domain only if they are in the public domain in
their
source country as of 1 January 1996. Almost all the other categories of
published works will not be in the public domain until 95 years after
publishing.
This induces a confusion and when looked in a legal perspective, most of
the
books in Indian Wikisources, are still not in public domain and hence
must
be removed. This makes a huge negative impact on the hard work done by
contributors. Their contributions are wasted which may cause them to stop
contributing. In short, this may be a negative impact on Wikimedia's
image
in the society.
The only solution to this problem is to host the servers of Indian
Wikimedia
services in India, so that the data we upload is stored under Indian
Laws.
Can Wikimedia India Chapter do anything on this? We can plan and conduct
a
fundraiser in India to raise money for the hosting expenses.
Please consider this issue with maximum priority as it involves legal
procedures and related headaches.
Regards,
Balasankar C
https://ml.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Balasankarc
Regards,
Balasankar C
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