Hi,

//Well, salaries upto 2 lakh _per month_ with additional allowances for
expenses on domestic and international travel is pretty huge for India.
Reading from
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMF-A2K_Grant_Budget_and_Utilization_Sept12_-Feb13.pdf//

So what? An employee working for the same BPO / software company in India
gets paid less than his counterpart in US. Even  offsetting the lifestyle
and cost of living allowances, it becomes like mere outsourcing for cheap
labour. Should WMF consider cost cutting and out source this work to some
other country :) ? 2 lakh INR comes around 3000 USD which is a decent
salary for a mid level employee in US. For a national program like CIS -
A2K, salaries in this range is acceptable.

Problem is Indian non-profits usally paying staggeringly low salary. Not
WMF approving reasonable salary scales.

So, are we going to ask for the payroll details of all WMF employees and
start giving our verdict on who deserves how much?

//There is certainly some irony in having a 200,000 INR per month
salary+perks and encouraging others to contribute voluntarily (worse still
to call it staggeringly low). More importantly I think, besides mere envy,
that this causes a rift between much of the community that was actually
happy being (unpaid) volunteers and those that would rather spend their
time jostling to be part of the funded system. Overall it seems funds as
opposed to shared resources (examples here being libraries, journal access)
have a tendency to affect egalitarian aims, and I suspect the effects are
worse in the "Global South".//

//It certainly makes the volunteers to draw a line on what they could
volunteer easily and leaves the rest to them (and i have implied
earlier about their abilities) and i afraid it's getting worse day by
day.//

Based on the same logic, is the global Wikipedia participation going down
and communities getting shrinked because of the amount of spending done by
WMF and national chapters?

Speaking from Tamil community's perspective, most of us don't know the
existance and spending done by WMF or India chapter or CIS - A2K. Even if
we get to know, I am sure that this will have no effect on our community's
motivation to contribute.

*Community dynamics will be strained only if direct editing  or off wiki
outreach or programs is financially supported for a select few. We make
sure that it doesn't happen and all community work is totally volunteering.
Where is egalitarianism lost here? *

The community should be aware of its strengths, goals and work towards it.
Wherever it cannot work efficiently, it should give space for partnering
agencies and let them do their work professionally.

This culture of looking up to WMF, chapter and CIS-A2K for community's
growth or lack of it is not healthy. We should remember that community came
first and all came later. There is still a lot of scope for each community
to grow on it's own and make use of grants program when it needs help.

We have every right as a donor to question how WMF and it's partnering
agencies spend our money. But that should not be an excuse to address the
lack of motivation in our community. If  people are really getting de
motivated because of this, we just need to attract more people with the
right attitude and motivation.

Ravi
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