Excellent, thanks! A.
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, stephen wanjau <[email protected]>wrote: > Asaf, this fee is a legal fee. In fact other photo journalists pay for > this and an official receipt from the City Council of Nairobi is issued. > > The KES 2600 caters for a permit to take photos within the council's > municipality for a day. > > When we went there (with Oscar) we were told to pay the fee. We were > hesitant to just pay and we explained the uniqueness and non-commercial > nature of our undertaking. Since the boss who could give us a waiver was > out on a meeting. The receptionist adviced that we write an official letter > explaining the purpose of our photo walk and request for a waiver thereof. > > The results of our request shall be out on Monday or Tuesday. > > If we get a total waiver well and good and that's what we are hoping for. > > //Stephen > > > On Feb 18, 2012 11:47 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Is this 2600 fee something official? Will you be getting a receipt? If >> so, it's fine to pay it. If it really is a bribe, we cannot cooperate with >> it; supporting corruption is not a legitimate use of our donor funds. >> >> A. >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, stephen wanjau <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hello Nice people, >>> >>> Asaf, I sought some advice from a local lawyer and he adviced me it >>> would be wise to notify the authorites of our undertaking considering the >>> security status of our country courtesy of the invasion into Somalia. The >>> Alshabab have been threatening to bomb the city and since we are a group of >>> youths who shall be taking photos we might be mistaken to be counterparts >>> of the Alshabab looking for the best buildings to attack. >>> >>> We sought advice from the OCPD Central police station today and the >>> Urban Development Department at the city council of Nairobi. >>> >>> At the city Council of Nairobi, they advised that we are supposed to pay >>> a fee of KES2,600. We talked to them and they told us to write a letter to >>> request for a partial or full waiver since ours was not a commercial >>> undertaking. >>> >>> As for the OCPD, he turned us down and he told us that he was too busy >>> to handle our case ;( Planning to go and see him sometime this week or >>> early next week. >>> >>> The project is still on as scheduled for 25th February, am just working >>> to ensure everyone is safe and not harassed by the City Council Askaris >>> [1] and the Regular police as well. >>> >>> >>> //Stephen >>> >>> 1. City council, a den of >>> corruption.<http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000050446&cid=159&story=Why%20City%20Council%20court%20is%20a%20den%20of%20corruption> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for? I.e. >>>> what are you not allowed to photograph without a press card? >>>> >>>> (In general, my experience shows that most people, including government >>>> officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of >>>> copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without >>>> scrutiny. One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at, >>>> around the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure >>>> the public interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that >>>> aren't actually there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the >>>> written law. I'm sorry I don't have time to look into this myself. Do we >>>> have access to a friendly Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find >>>> out what the law says?) >>>> >>>> Asaf >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Nice people, >>>>> >>>>> I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to >>>>> undertake the photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and >>>>> not on the 18th as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up >>>>> I networked with a photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we >>>>> dialogued about how we could make this photo walk a success in terms of >>>>> the >>>>> logistics involved. >>>>> >>>>> He informed me that he had been using images from commons as yet he >>>>> never knew of the existence of a local community of Wikim(p)edians! From >>>>> what he said, we are required by law to get Press cards from the affected >>>>> ministry that deals with Journalism in Kenya, i.e. Ministry of Information >>>>> and Communication. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Another alternative that we had been given earlier by Kaburo as we >>>>> were planning for Wikis takes Nairobi was to request for written >>>>> permission >>>>> from the City Council of Nairobi. I am kind of muddled by these two >>>>> opinions because in Kenya there is freedom of panorama, one is allowed to >>>>> take photos except at such places that are marked explicitly that you are >>>>> not supposed to take photographs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Freedom of Panorama in >>>>> Kenya<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Kenya>as >>>>> highlighted on Commons. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anyone on this list who is conversant with this, I beg to be educated/ >>>>> rectified so that I can go ahead with the planning for the photo-walk. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Stephen. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Asaf Bartov >>>> Wikimedia Foundation >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *"Better Late Than Never, But Never Late is Better"* >>> >>> My Blog <http://uwanja.wordpress.com> | @uwanja >>> <https://twitter.com/#%21/uwanja>| >>> Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/swanjau> | >>> >>> This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Asaf Bartov >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> >> > _______________________________________________ > WikimediaKE mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation
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