Excellent, thanks!

   A.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM, stephen wanjau <wanjaus...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Asaf, this fee is a legal fee. In fact other photo journalists pay for
> this and an official receipt from the City Council of Nairobi is issued.
>
> The KES 2600 caters for a permit to take photos within the council's
> municipality for a day.
>
> When we went there (with Oscar) we were told to pay the fee. We were
> hesitant to just pay and we explained the uniqueness and non-commercial
> nature of our undertaking. Since the boss who could give us a waiver was
> out on a meeting. The receptionist adviced that we write an official letter
> explaining the purpose of our photo walk and request for a waiver thereof.
>
> The results of our request shall be out on Monday or Tuesday.
>
> If we get a total waiver well and good and that's what we are hoping for.
>
> //Stephen
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2012 11:47 AM, "Asaf Bartov" <abar...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Is this 2600 fee something official?  Will you be getting a receipt?  If
>> so, it's fine to pay it.  If it really is a bribe, we cannot cooperate with
>> it; supporting corruption is not a legitimate use of our donor funds.
>>
>>    A.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, stephen wanjau <wanjaus...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Nice people,
>>>
>>> Asaf, I sought some advice from a local lawyer and he adviced me it
>>> would be wise to notify the authorites of our undertaking considering the
>>> security status of our country courtesy of the invasion into Somalia. The
>>> Alshabab have been threatening to bomb the city and since we are a group of
>>> youths who shall be taking photos we might be mistaken to be counterparts
>>> of the Alshabab looking for the best buildings to attack.
>>>
>>> We sought advice from the OCPD Central police station today and the
>>> Urban Development Department at the city council of Nairobi.
>>>
>>> At the city Council of Nairobi, they advised that we are supposed to pay
>>> a fee of KES2,600. We talked to them and they told us to write a letter to
>>> request for a partial or full waiver since ours was not a commercial
>>> undertaking.
>>>
>>> As for the OCPD, he turned us down and he told us that he was too busy
>>> to handle our case ;( Planning to go and see him sometime this week or
>>> early next week.
>>>
>>> The project is still on as scheduled for 25th February, am just working
>>> to ensure everyone is safe and not harassed by the City Council Askaris
>>> [1]  and the Regular police as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> //Stephen
>>>
>>> 1. City council, a den of 
>>> corruption.<http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=2000050446&cid=159&story=Why%20City%20Council%20court%20is%20a%20den%20of%20corruption>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> What exactly did this photographer say you need a press card for?  I.e.
>>>> what are you not allowed to photograph without a press card?
>>>>
>>>> (In general, my experience shows that most people, including government
>>>> officials and professional photographers, have a fairly hazy knowledge of
>>>> copyright law, and often repeat "conventional wisdom" statements without
>>>> scrutiny.  One of the things Wikimedians have been consistently good at,
>>>> around the world, is finding out what the actual facts are, and making sure
>>>> the public interest is served best, by not submitting to limitations that
>>>> aren't actually there. -- so yes, it would behoove us to look at the
>>>> written law.  I'm sorry I don't have time to look into this myself.  Do we
>>>> have access to a friendly Kenyan lawyer who might be able to help us find
>>>> out what the law says?)
>>>>
>>>>    Asaf
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:39 AM, stephen wanjau 
>>>> <wanjaus...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Nice people,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do hope that you are doing well. At the meet-up, we resolved to
>>>>> undertake the photo-walk on the Saturday of 25th February 2012 and
>>>>> not on the 18th as it had earlier been indicated. During our meet-up
>>>>> I networked with a photographer/ blogger who was in attendance and we
>>>>> dialogued about how we could make this photo walk a success in terms of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> logistics involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> He informed me that he had been using images from commons as yet he
>>>>> never knew of the existence of a local community of Wikim(p)edians! From
>>>>> what he said, we are required by law to get Press cards from the affected
>>>>> ministry that deals with Journalism in Kenya, i.e. Ministry of Information
>>>>> and Communication.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another alternative that we had been given earlier by Kaburo as we
>>>>> were planning for Wikis takes Nairobi was to request for written 
>>>>> permission
>>>>> from the City Council of Nairobi. I am kind of muddled by these two
>>>>> opinions because in Kenya there is freedom of panorama, one is allowed to
>>>>> take photos except at such places that are marked explicitly that you are
>>>>> not supposed to take photographs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Freedom of Panorama in 
>>>>> Kenya<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#Kenya>as
>>>>>  highlighted on Commons.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone on this list who is conversant with this, I beg to be educated/
>>>>> rectified so that I can go ahead with the planning for the photo-walk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen.
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