Thanks, WSC and John,

Now I see the advantages of spacing out membership renewals. Every other
organization I'm part of uses 1 January. Instead of prorating for mid-year
members they make them pay a full-year. I admit to timing my joining to the
first half of the year for that reason. Having been part of dues collection
for a small charity, I agree the collection period is a pain.

This is obviously something WMUK has deliberated on and come to the most
useful conclusion about.

Thanks all,

Jess


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 6:26 AM, John Byrne <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'd agree with Wierspiel. Most large member organizations have "natural"
> anniversaries, to give the membership department something to do all year.
> If you have one renewal date you only find out once a year if people stop
> renewing, which makes it much harder to try & do something about it.  You
> also get the income all in one lump.  January is also the run-up to the
> year-end, & the whole period Jan to mid-March is not a time to schedule
> extra work, as the year-end & audit already increase the office workload.
>  I think you naturally discourage people from joining mid-year, unless you
> get into some complicated pro-rata fee for the first year.  Altogether it
> creates more problems than you solve. But I'd emphasize again the
> importance of letting people know when their renewal date is, and trying to
> get as many as possible onto direct debits.
>
> John
>
>
> On 10/02/2013 11:53, 
> wikimediauk-l-request@lists.**wikimedia.org<[email protected]>wrote:
>
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>> Hi Jess,
>>
>> First of Jan is an awkward time of year - people are most likely to get
>> into debt over Xmas so I'd be cautious about trying to harmonise all our
>> renewals at that time of year. If you have a bunch of regular AGM
>> attenders
>> who pay their memberships in cash then it is obviously easiest to get them
>> to pay when they turn up at the AGM, but I doubt that greatly applies to
>> us
>> and I wouldn't recommend 1st Jan for an AGM.
>>
>> There are many disadvantages to having all renewals on the same date. It
>> means you are always signing up new members on the basis of a part year
>> membership at one price followed hopefully by full year memberships; It
>> concentrates all your membership renewal work in one point of the year;
>> and
>> it means there is a particular point in the year when your membership dips
>> which could be awkward for special AGMs etc. If membership revenue was
>> ever
>> a significant part of our income it would also mean that our cashflow was
>> distorted with a spike in our revenue that didn't coincide with a spike in
>> expenditure.
>>
>> By contrast I'm not aware of any advantage to having them all on the same
>> date. So I'd suggest it is better to have them as evenly spread through
>> the
>> year as possible.
>>
>> WSC
>>
>> On 9 February 2013 22:35, Jessica 
>> Taylor<jessica.s.taylor71@**gmail.com<[email protected]>
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  >Richard, thanks for that explanation. I may be barking up the wrong tree
>>> >but I'll jump in anyway.
>>> >
>>> >If memberships became due each 1st of January, fundraising/dues
>>> collection
>>> >could be easier. I realize that there would be many logistical hurdles
>>> >which may moot this suggestion.
>>> >
>>> >Is it plausible that WMUK could ask members if they'd be willing to pay
>>> >both the membership from their next expiration date to the next normal
>>> >expiration date PLUS their next year's dues for the year of 2014 with
>>> the
>>> >understanding that their membership period will thenceforth be from
>>> January
>>> >to January and will next be due on 1 January 2015. I realize that some
>>> >members would say, "No."
>>> >
>>> >Alternatively, could WMUK ask members if they would voluntarily
>>> relinquish
>>> >their leftover membership periods at midnight on the 31 December 2013
>>> AND
>>> >start their memberships over the next day? Again I realize some members
>>> may
>>> >say, "No," because of the lost value of X months of membership.
>>> >
>>> >Final alternative, might WMUK ask members if to anonymously gift
>>> part-year
>>> >memberships on behalf of other anonymous members
>>>
>>
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