Edward's suggestions seem sensible to me, though I'd be happy with either 
version.

I might also be inclined to remove "by the architect", especially if we're 
using a sculpture as an example.
 
Harry Mitchell

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 From: Edward Hands <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013, 16:56
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 'Illustrating Wikipedia brochure' - your   
thoughts?
 


Stevie, Michael, etc

I think this could be more concise in a few places (see my
      suggested changes below in black).  In the final caveat, I think
      that "are often" better represents the reality than "may be".

best wishes
Edward Hands


Freedom of panorama in the UK
Under UK law, you can upload a photo of the architecture of any building 
(inside or outside) without infringing any copyright held by the architect.  
The same applies to any 3D artwork, such as a statue, provided that it is 
permanently located in a public place (somewhere normally open to the public, 
including interior spaces such as museums).  So, you can freely upload a photo 
of the Angel of the North, even though the sculpture itself is 
copyright-protected.   Note that this applies only to 3D works, and not to 2D 
works such as posters or signs - even if on they are on public display.  Note 
also that the rules outside the UK are often different.

Hello everyone, 
>
>
>Latest iteration of the document is at 
>https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wp_Commons_SHIP_12pp_September_UK.pdf
>
>
>I still need to add in the location URL on the back page and give the document 
>a final proofread. Other than those two things I'm pretty happy. I've updated 
>the freedom of panorama information (although please note the size limitations 
>on that page). If there are no further (important) changes then I plan to get 
>a version over to the printer next week.
>
>
>Thank you,
>
>Stevie
>
>
>
>On 15 September 2013 17:13, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Proposed new simpler version:
>>
>>
>>Freedom of panorama in the UK
>>
>>Under UK law, you are allowed to upload a photo of the architecture of any 
>>building (inside or outside) without infringing any copyright held by the 
>>architect.  The same applies to any 3D artwork, such as a statue, provided 
>>that it is permanently located in a public place (this means somewhere 
>>normally open to the public, including interior spaces such as museums).  So, 
>>you can freely upload a photo of the Angel of the North sculpture, even 
>>though the sculpture itself is copyright-protected.   Note that this applies 
>>only to 3D works, and not to 2D works such as posters or signs - even if on 
>>they are on public display.  Note also that the rules outside the UK may be 
>>different. 
>>
>> 
>>Michael 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>>>>
>>On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:57, Michael Maggs wrote:
>>
>>Ok Harry, I will have a go at tweaking the text to put the buildings info 
>>first. It would be easier to be more straightforward if we had more space to 
>>fit this into.
>>>
>>>Michael 
>>>
>>>On 14 Sep 2013, at 16:29, HJ Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Pardon me, Michael, but I think that might be a bit too jargony. If I was a 
>>>complete novice on copyright, I'd have to read that several times to work 
>>>out that I could upload a photo of any building in the UK without infringing 
>>>a third party's copyright. The important part is that if it's 3D and 
>>>permanently lives in a public place (like a building or a statue), it's fair 
>>>game. An example might be useful in illustrating the point for novices; 
>>>Nelson's Column comes to mind...
>>>> 
>>>>Harry Mitchell
>>>>
>>>>http://enwp.org/User:HJ
>>>>
>>>>Phone: 024 7698 0977
>>>>Skype: harry_j_mitchell
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