Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? In the past,
I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame that no
progress has been made on allowing normal video file types.

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On 24 October 2017 at 10:50, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd understood from your
> message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed to change the
> publicly visible You Tube licences.
>
> Shall we discuss in more detail off list?
>
> Michael
>
> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael!
>
> You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, I'll take your lead
> on this and email you asap.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Robin
>
> On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes I can help.
>
> To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal
> confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be sent to OTRS. If you
> could privately let me know details of the person who could provide the
> necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for them to send to
> OTRS.  The uploaded files can then be tagged appropriately so that users
> don't start deleting them based on what they can see on YouTube.
>
> Michael
>
> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:10, Robin Owain <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> S4C have agreed to change their 'Usual You Tube licence' of videos on
> their 2017 Royal Welsh Show account (and previous years) to CCBYSA. This
> means we can upload around 2,000 videos to Commons. It also means that S4C,
> for the first time, have discussed and understood legality and benefits of
> open licencing, and could produce footage of other subjects.
>
> Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOrGrdJcnGuiCXMc3tCUvnA/videos
>
> I gave them two options:
>
> 1. RTS (the simple option)
>
> 2. Change licence on You Tube to CC (recommended as it's visible on You
> Tube).
>
> They say that they have changed the licence (using batch - manual
> historical), but that it's not visible on any of the videos on You Tube,
> and the videos don't appear in a Google CC  search.
>
> Any help please?
>
> PS In due course we will need to transfer them over to Commons with a
> pilot patch of 10. Each video will need a 5 second subtitle saying "S4C -
> Sianel Pedwar Cymru". A project will then take place in order to subtitle
> the main points in English eg names of species, breeds, farm location.
> Clips from each video could also be taken, and placed in that breed's
> Category on Commons, Wikidata etc.
>
> But first - the licence!
>
>
> Robin Owain
>
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