There were actually a lot of discussions at Wikimania about how to get to a point where commonly used file types are allowed to be used. Perhaps I’ll write a blog post about it which might help inform this discussion.
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 09:50, Rex X <[email protected]> wrote: > Commons does not allow "normal video file types" because many of them > contain > proprietary coding. > > Part of our mission is to encourage the growth of open resources and that > includes open software and open standards. Commons takes that seriously > and it's > important that we do as well. Even if it seems inconvenient at times. > > -- > Rexx > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 13:51 John Lubbock <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? In the past, > > I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame that no > > progress has been made on allowing normal video file types. > > > > John Lubbock > > > > Communications Coordinator > > > > Wikimedia UK > > > > +44 (0) 203 372 0767 > > > > > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, > > Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. > > > > Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The > > Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate > > Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent > > non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor > responsibility > > for its contents.* > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 10:50, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd understood from your > > > message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed to change the > > > publicly visible You Tube licences. > > > > > > Shall we discuss in more detail off list? > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Michael! > > > > > > You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, I'll take your > lead > > > on this and email you asap. > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Yes I can help. > > > > > > To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal > > > confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be sent to OTRS. If > you > > > could privately let me know details of the person who could provide the > > > necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for them to send to > > > OTRS. The uploaded files can then be tagged appropriately so that > users > > > don't start deleting them based on what they can see on YouTube. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:10, Robin Owain <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > S4C have agreed to change their 'Usual You Tube licence' of videos on > > > their 2017 Royal Welsh Show account (and previous years) to CCBYSA. > This > > > means we can upload around 2,000 videos to Commons. It also means that > S4C, > > > for the first time, have discussed and understood legality and > benefits of > > > open licencing, and could produce footage of other subjects. > > > > > > Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOrGrdJcnGuiCXMc3tCUvnA/videos > > > > > > I gave them two options: > > > > > > 1. RTS (the simple option) > > > > > > 2. Change licence on You Tube to CC (recommended as it's visible on You > > > Tube). > > > > > > They say that they have changed the licence (using batch - manual > > > historical), but that it's not visible on any of the videos on You > Tube, > > > and the videos don't appear in a Google CC search. > > > > > > Any help please? > > > > > > PS In due course we will need to transfer them over to Commons with a > > > pilot patch of 10. Each video will need a 5 second subtitle saying > "S4C - > > > Sianel Pedwar Cymru". A project will then take place in order to > subtitle > > > the main points in English eg names of species, breeds, farm location. > > > Clips from each video could also be taken, and placed in that breed's > > > Category on Commons, Wikidata etc. > > > > > > But first - the licence! > > > > > > > > > Robin Owain > > > > > > Wikimedia UK > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia UK mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. 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