I don't think there is a problem here.

From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them is PD (expired copyright).

The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing.

If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder.

Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to copyright.

Ankry


On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote:


On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com <mailto:bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Hi Ankry,

    As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use
    their contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed.


This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire world, not to Wikimedia sites only.  I know you know this, but it is important NDLI understand this, too.

   A.

    Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing
    will not be uploaded in any way.

    Regards,
    Bodhisattwa


    On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry <ankry.w...@onet.pl
    <mailto:ankry.w...@onet.pl>> wrote:

        I'm just looking at them.

        They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content
        in their ToU.
        So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit
        permission may be against their ToU (even if consistent with
        copyright law).
        Do we care?

        Ankry


        On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
        Hi,

        That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it.
        I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is
        really multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with
        Breton (mislabelled as French) and I saw a lot of other
        minority languages!

        Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need
        help?

        Cheers, ~nicolas

        Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal
        <bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com
        <mailto:bodhisattwa.rg...@gmail.com>> a écrit :

            Hi all,

            It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia
            community that National Digital Library of India
            <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India>
            (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and
            Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) have signed a tripartite
            non-binding Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a
            2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is
            a Ministry of Human Resource Development
            
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development>
            project, developed at IIT Kharagpur
            
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur>
            which aims to build a virtual repository of learning
            resources and literature metadata.

            Through this understanding, we will work together on:

              * integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI
                website. <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/>
              * building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website
                to crowdsource
                metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on
                Wikisource websites.
              * importing relevant contents and data from NDLI
                website to Wikidata and Wikisource.
              * identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities
                around other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks.

            After months of discussion among the three parties, the
            understanding was finalized during International
            Symposium on Knowledge Engineering for Digital Library
            Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an
            international conference organized collaboratively by
            NDLI and UNESCO at IIT Delhi
            
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>,
            where WMF was a technical partner.

            Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in
            different relevant mailing lists.

            Regards,
            Jayanta and Bodhisattwa
            CIS-A2K
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