Hi Asaf, We acknowledge your concern.
When we had meetings with NDLI, we specifically discussed about "their contents" to be published under CC-BY-SA, if we are going to include them on Wikimedia Commons and they primarily agreed on that. They have very good knowledge about different Creative Commons license terms and they are one of the advocates of RightsStatements license, so it was easier to talk about these areas with them. I hope, we can sort this issue out. Let's see. Regards, Bodhisattwa On Sun, 15 Mar 2020, 02:43 Asaf Bartov, <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement. PD > metadata is not "their content", really. > > A. > > Asaf Bartov (he/him/his) > > Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think there is a problem here. >> >> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them >> is PD (expired copyright). >> >> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing. >> >> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a >> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be >> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder. >> >> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish >> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download >> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The >> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to >> copyright. >> >> Ankry >> >> >> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ankry, >>> >>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their >>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. >>> >> >> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire >> world, not to Wikimedia sites only. I know you know this, but it is >> important NDLI understand this, too. >> >> A. >> >> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not >>> be uploaded in any way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bodhisattwa >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm just looking at them. >>>> >>>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their >>>> ToU. >>>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may >>>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law). >>>> Do we care? >>>> >>>> Ankry >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it. >>>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really >>>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as >>>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages! >>>> >>>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help? >>>> >>>> Cheers, ~nicolas >>>> >>>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal < >>>> [email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community >>>>> that National Digital Library of India >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India> >>>>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding >>>>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a >>>>> Ministry >>>>> of Human Resource Development >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development> >>>>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur> >>>>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and >>>>> literature metadata. >>>>> >>>>> Through this understanding, we will work together on: >>>>> >>>>> - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website. >>>>> <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/> >>>>> - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to >>>>> crowdsource >>>>> metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource >>>>> websites. >>>>> - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to >>>>> Wikidata and Wikisource. >>>>> - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around >>>>> other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks. >>>>> >>>>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding >>>>> was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering >>>>> for Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an >>>>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at >>>>> IIT >>>>> Delhi >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>, >>>>> where WMF was a technical partner. >>>>> >>>>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different >>>>> relevant mailing lists. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa >>>>> CIS-A2K >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikisource-l mailing >>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >
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