Yes. I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement. PD metadata is not "their content", really.
A. Asaf Bartov (he/him/his) Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! https://donate.wikimedia.org On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't think there is a problem here. > > From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them is > PD (expired copyright). > > The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing. > > If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a > violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be > able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder. > > Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish there > under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download therefrom > for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The permission is to > be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to copyright. > > Ankry > > > On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Ankry, >> >> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their >> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. >> > > This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire > world, not to Wikimedia sites only. I know you know this, but it is > important NDLI understand this, too. > > A. > > Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not >> be uploaded in any way. >> >> Regards, >> Bodhisattwa >> >> >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm just looking at them. >>> >>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their >>> ToU. >>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may >>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law). >>> Do we care? >>> >>> Ankry >>> >>> >>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it. >>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really >>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as >>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages! >>> >>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help? >>> >>> Cheers, ~nicolas >>> >>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal < >>> [email protected]> a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community >>>> that National Digital Library of India >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India> >>>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation >>>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding >>>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a >>>> Ministry >>>> of Human Resource Development >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development> >>>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur> >>>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and >>>> literature metadata. >>>> >>>> Through this understanding, we will work together on: >>>> >>>> - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website. >>>> <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/> >>>> - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to >>>> crowdsource >>>> metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource >>>> websites. >>>> - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to >>>> Wikidata and Wikisource. >>>> - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around other >>>> Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks. >>>> >>>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding >>>> was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering >>>> for Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an >>>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at >>>> IIT >>>> Delhi >>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>, >>>> where WMF was a technical partner. >>>> >>>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different relevant >>>> mailing lists. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa >>>> CIS-A2K >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing >>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >
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