We have had great problem with earlier digital library projects which government undertook. 36 scan centers/hubs millions of books without copyright verification (note: many won’t go through proper copyright process in India) and the entire project was shutdown making the works inaccessible to public. Virtual library http://www.nvli.in/ has been down after burning millions in meetings. http://bharatavani.in/ Which was supposed to be the multilingual digital library for 100+ Indian language only hosts copyrighted content and multilevel locked in process to download and use content - even for public/research purposes. It’s very much needed to see if they really mark the content under cc-by-sa. Hope they really understand this.
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:43 AM Asaf Bartov <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes. I referred to "their content" in Bodhisattwa's statement. PD > metadata is not "their content", really. > > A. > > Asaf Bartov (he/him/his) > > Senior Program Officer, Emerging Wikimedia Communities > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:50 PM Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think there is a problem here. >> >> From the copyright point of view, the content we want to copy from them >> is PD (expired copyright). >> >> The problem was their ToU that did not allow commercial republishing. >> >> If we republished without permission, then they would accuse us a >> violation of ToU and eg. suspend users' accounts. I doubt they would be >> able to sue a republisher for anything as they are not the copyright holder. >> >> Once we get their permission to publish in Wikimedia, we can publish >> there under the correct copyright status (PD) and anybody can download >> therefrom for any purpose. Reusers are not bound by their ToU. The >> permission is to be not bound by their ToU limits, and is unrelated to >> copyright. >> >> Ankry >> >> >> On 14.03.2020 20:12, Asaf Bartov wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020, 20:03 Bodhisattwa Mandal < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ankry, >>> >>> As part of the understanding, NDLI is giving permission to use their >>> contents to be used on Wikimedia sites as needed. >>> >> >> This is of course not enough. Permission must be given to the entire >> world, not to Wikimedia sites only. I know you know this, but it is >> important NDLI understand this, too. >> >> A. >> >> Also, anything not compatible with Wikimedia sites and licensing will not >>> be uploaded in any way. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Bodhisattwa >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Ankry <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm just looking at them. >>>> >>>> They have restriction for non-commercial use of their content in their >>>> ToU. >>>> So uploading anything to Commons without their explicit permission may >>>> be against their ToU (even if consistent with copyright law). >>>> Do we care? >>>> >>>> Ankry >>>> >>>> >>>> On 14.03.2020 11:18, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> That's a really great news! Thanks for sharing it. >>>> I browse quickly the content they have and wow, this is really >>>> multilingual. I even found some bilingual books with Breton (mislabelled as >>>> French) and I saw a lot of other minority languages! >>>> >>>> Do you already know what the next steps will be? Do you need help? >>>> >>>> Cheers, ~nicolas >>>> >>>> Le sam. 14 mars 2020 à 09:52, Bodhisattwa Mandal < >>>> [email protected]> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> It gives us immense pleasure to announce to the Wikimedia community >>>>> that National Digital Library of India >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Digital_Library_of_India> >>>>> (NDLI), Centre for Internet and Society (CIS) and Wikimedia Foundation >>>>> (WMF) have signed a tripartite non-binding Memorandum of Understanding >>>>> (MoU) for a 2-years partnership. National Digital Library of India is a >>>>> Ministry >>>>> of Human Resource Development >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Human_Resource_Development> >>>>> project, developed at IIT Kharagpur >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Kharagpur> >>>>> which aims to build a virtual repository of learning resources and >>>>> literature metadata. >>>>> >>>>> Through this understanding, we will work together on: >>>>> >>>>> - integrating Wikisource and Wikidata contents on NDLI website. >>>>> <https://ndl.iitkgp.ac.in/> >>>>> - building up technical infrastructure on NDLI website to >>>>> crowdsource >>>>> metadata curation on Wikidata and proofreading on Wikisource >>>>> websites. >>>>> - importing relevant contents and data from NDLI website to >>>>> Wikidata and Wikisource. >>>>> - identifying and pursuing collaboration opportunities around >>>>> other Wikimedia projects, such as Wikibooks. >>>>> >>>>> After months of discussion among the three parties, the understanding >>>>> was finalized during International Symposium on Knowledge Engineering >>>>> for Digital Library Design 2019, <http://kedl2019.ndl.gov.in/> an >>>>> international conference organized collaboratively by NDLI and UNESCO at >>>>> IIT >>>>> Delhi >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institute_of_Technology_Delhi>, >>>>> where WMF was a technical partner. >>>>> >>>>> Many apologies for cross-posting the announcement in different >>>>> relevant mailing lists. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Jayanta and Bodhisattwa >>>>> CIS-A2K >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikisource-l mailing >>>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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