Hi, Sadly, I tend to agree with you Bodhisattwa! The proposals are disheartening...
That said, I don't think this is completely pointless tho. The RfC (I'm guessing you talk about https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia ) has been mostly unheard by the Foundation, that's is why - I think - this is important to say it again on the official survey. That's why I think our voices matter here. If you didn't or don't have time to watch the whole video on Youtube, here is the summary page of the 3 proposals : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Naming_convention_proposals (with subpages for each proposal), which I can resume with the examples of the renaming of the Wikimedia movement : - option 1: Wikipedia Network - option 2: Wikipedia Movement - option 3: Wiki All three options remove the term "Wikimedia" to replace it by "Wikipedia" and indeed, there is no statu quo option... But we can still reject all options (either say they're all "very bad" or rank them from "bad" to "very bad", for me 1 and 3 are "very bad" and 2 is only "bad"). In any case, Wikisource and the Wikisource Community User Group will not be rename and are not directly concerned by the current renaming. Still, I think that the name "Wikipedia" overtaking the whole movement is a bad symbol and an invisibilization of other Wikimedia projects. The survey is long (and all questions mandatory) but I encourage you to still fill it personally and to help me to find the answer for the affiliate filling. Before answering it, you can see the question on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Naming_convention_proposals/Survey_text to have an overview. Should we create a page on meta to collect our point of view and prepare the global answer? or do you prefer to talk by mails? (you can send me a private mail if you don't want to speak on this public list, I'm also available on various social medias, feel free to get in touch with me). Cheers, ~nicolas Le ven. 19 juin 2020 à 06:17, Bodhisattwa Mandal < [email protected]> a écrit : > Hi Nicolas, > > I don't think our voices really matter in this case. Check the RfC, people > are still voting against 'Wikipedia' as a brand name, but the survey has > only one option which is three variants of Wikipedia. It doesn't even have > the option of status quo. This is very frustrating to say, but this is the > truth that we cannot change anything through this survey or participating > in the process, as the outcome is already decided. The process is just an > eye-wash to show that the community was consulted. > > Personally I feel, this whole process is completely biased, pre-decided > and non-transparent. There is no point wasting time here. > > Regards, > Bodhisattwa > > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 16:10 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi y'all, >> >> In case you didn't see it already, here is a reminder that the Naming >> Convention Proposals Presentation will start in ~4 hours at 15:00 UTC >> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Brand+Naming+Presentation&iso=20200616T15&p1=1440&ah=1> >> on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY >> >> Something that you may not know, is that the Wikisource Community User >> Group has a voice in this process. >> More exactly here is a copy-paste of a mail I received yesterday from >> Samir Elsharbaty (Community Brand and Marketing coordinator at the >> Wikimedia Foundation): >> >> >> >> *Feedback period: For affiliates and individuals from 16 June to 30 June >> 2020. A collective feedback survey link will be shared with your email >> addresses next week. This survey is a primary way for affiliates to submit >> feedback as a group on the proposals. If you would like to change the email >> address we send the survey to, please let us know. Affiliate Liaisons: The >> most straightforward way for your affiliate to provide feedback during this >> phase and the upcoming ones is by designating an affiliate liaison to be a >> connection point between our team and your affiliate. If you are interested >> in designating a liaison to receive updates and facilitate discussions, >> please reply to this email.* >> >> I proposed my name to be the liaison for the Wikisource Community UG, if >> anyone else is interested, they can join or even replace me. >> And if you have any comments or remarks about the propositions, please >> share them (before end of June) so I can then share them in the survey. >> >> Cheers, >> Nicolas >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >
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