Greetings and good day,
>> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia
Foundation"
>> from the start, would you have left it?
– That's citing an imaginary situation while dealing with a real problem.

Thanks
Tito Dutta


On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 03:44, Lars Aronsson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2020-06-19 09:58, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote:
> > All three options remove the term "Wikimedia" to replace it by
> > "Wikipedia" and indeed, there is no statu quo option...
>
>
> In my opinion, it was a mistake in 2003, when the foundation was
> established,
> to invent a new name for it. If it had been called "Wikipedia
> Foundation" from
> the start, it would have been so much easier to explain to friends,
> collaboration
> partners and donors what we are. We are a foundation to support Wikipedia
> (and also its sister projects). Wikisource, Wiktionary and the rest are
> just that:
> They are sister projects to Wikipedia, always were, always have been.
>
> Only Wikipedia is the groundbreaking innovation that could win the Nobel
> Prize
> (for peace, perhaps?). None of the sister projects could qualify for this.
> While Wikisource is great, we should be humble and grateful that we can
> benefit from all the money and technology around Wikipedia, including
> events like Wikimania.
>
> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia Foundation"
> from the start, would you have left it? Would you have left Wikisource, in
> order to administrate your own, separate, independent project? Asaf Bartov
> does this with Project Ben-Yehuda. I do this with Project Runeberg. These
> are not part of Wikisource, not part of the Wikipedia/-media movement.
> But we never broke away from Wikisource. The reason we maintain our
> own projects is because they are older than Wikisource. It is a lot of
> extra
> work to administrate your own project. If this kind of extra administration
> is your mission in life, perhaps you should leave Wikisource and run your
> own? See how fun that is.
>
> In my case, I could close down Project Runeberg and merge with Wikisource,
> if it weren't for some differences in licensing. Much of what I have
> digitized
> there can not fit in Wikisource. And so I continue to carry the extra
> burden
> of administrating my own project. But it's not because I hate the Wikipedia
> movement or Wikisource. On the contrary, I was active in establishing
> the Swedish chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation in 2007. And I have spent
> too much time explaining the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia.
>
> I wish it had been named "Wikipedia Foundation" from the start. When the
> burden of dual names was obvious in 2015, I wish the foundation had just
> renamed itself quickly without asking anyone. It would have been
> criticized,
> but now it is criticized anyway after very long and slow process, so no
> gain.
>
>
> --
>    Lars Aronsson ([email protected])
>    Linköping, Sweden
>
>    Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/
>
>
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