Hi, I am totally agreed with Bodhisattwa's point of view. I supporting to Nicolas as a liaison person from the Wikisource Community UG.
Regards, Jayanta On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:28 PM Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Sadly, I tend to agree with you Bodhisattwa! The proposals are > disheartening... > > That said, I don't think this is completely pointless tho. The RfC (I'm > guessing you talk about > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia > ) has been mostly unheard by the Foundation, that's is why - I think - this > is important to say it again on the official survey. That's why I think our > voices matter here. > > If you didn't or don't have time to watch the whole video on Youtube, here > is the summary page of the 3 proposals : > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Naming_convention_proposals > (with subpages for each proposal), which I can resume with the examples of > the renaming of the Wikimedia movement : > - option 1: Wikipedia Network > - option 2: Wikipedia Movement > - option 3: Wiki > > All three options remove the term "Wikimedia" to replace it by "Wikipedia" > and indeed, there is no statu quo option... But we can still reject all > options (either say they're all "very bad" or rank them from "bad" to "very > bad", for me 1 and 3 are "very bad" and 2 is only "bad"). > > In any case, Wikisource and the Wikisource Community User Group will not > be rename and are not directly concerned by the current renaming. Still, I > think that the name "Wikipedia" overtaking the whole movement is a bad > symbol and an invisibilization of other Wikimedia projects. > > The survey is long (and all questions mandatory) but I encourage you to > still fill it personally and to help me to find the answer for the > affiliate filling. Before answering it, you can see the question on > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Naming_convention_proposals/Survey_text > to have an overview. > > Should we create a page on meta to collect our point of view and prepare > the global answer? or do you prefer to talk by mails? (you can send me a > private mail if you don't want to speak on this public list, I'm also > available on various social medias, feel free to get in touch with me). > > Cheers, > ~nicolas > > Le ven. 19 juin 2020 à 06:17, Bodhisattwa Mandal < > [email protected]> a écrit : > >> Hi Nicolas, >> >> I don't think our voices really matter in this case. Check the RfC, >> people are still voting against 'Wikipedia' as a brand name, but the survey >> has only one option which is three variants of Wikipedia. It doesn't even >> have the option of status quo. This is very frustrating to say, but this is >> the truth that we cannot change anything through this survey or >> participating in the process, as the outcome is already decided. The >> process is just an eye-wash to show that the community was consulted. >> >> Personally I feel, this whole process is completely biased, pre-decided >> and non-transparent. There is no point wasting time here. >> >> Regards, >> Bodhisattwa >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 16:10 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi y'all, >>> >>> In case you didn't see it already, here is a reminder that the Naming >>> Convention Proposals Presentation will start in ~4 hours at 15:00 UTC >>> <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Brand+Naming+Presentation&iso=20200616T15&p1=1440&ah=1> >>> on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY >>> >>> Something that you may not know, is that the Wikisource Community User >>> Group has a voice in this process. >>> More exactly here is a copy-paste of a mail I received yesterday from >>> Samir Elsharbaty (Community Brand and Marketing coordinator at the >>> Wikimedia Foundation): >>> >>> >>> >>> *Feedback period: For affiliates and individuals from 16 June to 30 June >>> 2020. A collective feedback survey link will be shared with your email >>> addresses next week. This survey is a primary way for affiliates to submit >>> feedback as a group on the proposals. If you would like to change the email >>> address we send the survey to, please let us know. Affiliate Liaisons: The >>> most straightforward way for your affiliate to provide feedback during this >>> phase and the upcoming ones is by designating an affiliate liaison to be a >>> connection point between our team and your affiliate. If you are interested >>> in designating a liaison to receive updates and facilitate discussions, >>> please reply to this email.* >>> >>> I proposed my name to be the liaison for the Wikisource Community UG, if >>> anyone else is interested, they can join or even replace me. >>> And if you have any comments or remarks about the propositions, please >>> share them (before end of June) so I can then share them in the survey. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Nicolas >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >
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