Hi Wikisourcers, An open letter <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming> has been published on meta an hour ago asking WMF to pause or stop the renaming activities. The letter was drafted collaboratively after the All-Affiliates Brand Meeting <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/All-Affiliates_Brand_Meeting> which happened two days ago. If the Wikisource User Group collectively or any Wikisourcers individually agree with the letter, you are invited to sign there.
Regards, Bodhisattwa <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_open_letter_on_renaming> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 22:05, J Hayes <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, people wonder about what might have beens, when WMF is changing > branding to where movement was 10 years ago. > WMF is showing its conservative approach meeting readers where they are, > rather than shaping brand of where we want to go. And collecting money from > large donors. > We need some branding for where we want wikisource to go. Can we have some > wikisource t-shirts with Indic languages on it? My vienna t-shirt is > getting old. > Cheers. > > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 7:54 AM Tito Dutta <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Greetings and good day, >> >> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia >> Foundation" >> >> from the start, would you have left it? >> – That's citing an imaginary situation while dealing with a real problem. >> >> Thanks >> Tito Dutta >> >> >> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 03:44, Lars Aronsson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 2020-06-19 09:58, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: >>> > All three options remove the term "Wikimedia" to replace it by >>> > "Wikipedia" and indeed, there is no statu quo option... >>> >>> >>> In my opinion, it was a mistake in 2003, when the foundation was >>> established, >>> to invent a new name for it. If it had been called "Wikipedia >>> Foundation" from >>> the start, it would have been so much easier to explain to friends, >>> collaboration >>> partners and donors what we are. We are a foundation to support Wikipedia >>> (and also its sister projects). Wikisource, Wiktionary and the rest are >>> just that: >>> They are sister projects to Wikipedia, always were, always have been. >>> >>> Only Wikipedia is the groundbreaking innovation that could win the Nobel >>> Prize >>> (for peace, perhaps?). None of the sister projects could qualify for >>> this. >>> While Wikisource is great, we should be humble and grateful that we can >>> benefit from all the money and technology around Wikipedia, including >>> events like Wikimania. >>> >>> What you have to ask yourself: If it had been named "Wikipedia >>> Foundation" >>> from the start, would you have left it? Would you have left Wikisource, >>> in >>> order to administrate your own, separate, independent project? Asaf >>> Bartov >>> does this with Project Ben-Yehuda. I do this with Project Runeberg. These >>> are not part of Wikisource, not part of the Wikipedia/-media movement. >>> But we never broke away from Wikisource. The reason we maintain our >>> own projects is because they are older than Wikisource. It is a lot of >>> extra >>> work to administrate your own project. If this kind of extra >>> administration >>> is your mission in life, perhaps you should leave Wikisource and run your >>> own? See how fun that is. >>> >>> In my case, I could close down Project Runeberg and merge with >>> Wikisource, >>> if it weren't for some differences in licensing. Much of what I have >>> digitized >>> there can not fit in Wikisource. And so I continue to carry the extra >>> burden >>> of administrating my own project. But it's not because I hate the >>> Wikipedia >>> movement or Wikisource. On the contrary, I was active in establishing >>> the Swedish chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation in 2007. And I have spent >>> too much time explaining the difference between Wikipedia and Wikimedia. >>> >>> I wish it had been named "Wikipedia Foundation" from the start. When the >>> burden of dual names was obvious in 2015, I wish the foundation had just >>> renamed itself quickly without asking anyone. It would have been >>> criticized, >>> but now it is criticized anyway after very long and slow process, so no >>> gain. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lars Aronsson ([email protected]) >>> Linköping, Sweden >>> >>> Project Runeberg - free Nordic literature - http://runeberg.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikisource-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikisource-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikisource-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l >
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