On 12/11/11 12:41, Niklas Laxström wrote: >> I would have expected this reply on CR, without need of the previous >> mail. :( Good to know anyway. I guess that the deletions should be >> normally requested at [[Support]]? > > I gave you a reply on CR (my second comment): > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/102166#code-comments
I had missed your second comment. You indeed explained it there. Call me a fool. >>> Absolutly. Documentation can be improved.. Bug 1? *hides* >> >> I agree. Especially since I ended up asking if TWN had a FAQ, because I >> didn't find a link to it... o_O > > We are constantly looking for help, as mentioned in the > translatewiki.net front page. In the past I've been server > administrator, programer, software designer, software documentation > writer, translator, marketer, usability engineer, interaction > designer, performance engineer, security expert, legal expert, wiki > documentation writer, artist, visual designer, user support person, > project support person, translation importer&exporter, i18n > consultant, new project integration support, website statistics > analyzer and what else for translatewiki.net. The fact is that this is > a collaborative project and I suck at most of the things I just > mentioned ;). So even though we have many great persons working for > twn, there are areas that are not getting attention. If you have ever > wanted to help us, there sure are ways to do it. > > I'm very surprised to hear that there are a communication problems > (leaving Daniel's case out for now, which has different origins). The > administrators (and even translators) of translatewiki.net are almost > 100% also part of the MediaWiki community. We are active on code > review, we hang out on IRC, we visit conferences and other events and > usually responds to any questions quickly. There should be plenty of > opportunities to reach us, ask questions and interact with us. > > Or is the problem that people prefer written documentation to the > extend that if it is not there they don't even bother to ask? I refuse > to believe we are too scary to be asked (see image on [1] :). My main problem is that I don't understand it, translatewiki grew to be quite complex (probably with reason), so I need to ask. :) I may try to find out things for myself (eg. grep for UILANGCODE in trunk/extensions), and you'll notice that I indeed got to #mediawiki-i18n when I get a doubt about it. I may be lucky and get an answer from someone which is there and already knows, or nobody may be active at that time. So when reaching a dead end I may not be taking a fully optimal path. :) Note that although unusual, CodeReview is also asking. I may proceed to http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support in the future. Things like having the FAQ at the sidebar might help. I find extrange that the first sidebar link requires me to login (too used to that being Main Page? Maybe I'm unconsciously expecting it to be an explanation text linking to Special:FirstSteps as a wizard). Most links on the Main Page also give permission errors, which doesn't help self-documenting. Best regards _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
