Hello Niklas and all,

<quote name="Niklas Laxström" date="2013-03-21" time="11:55:24 +0200">
> I've seen a couple of instances where changes to MediaWiki are blocked
> until someone informs the community.

Just so I know, could you share these? Either on list or in a private
email to me if you don't want to cause more stress in a sensitive
situation.

But, generally, on this issue, I think we need to make this better.

I have some ideas that I want to work on, but, I've been mostly getting
caught up on things thus far (I'm one month in now, pretty soon that
excuse no longer flies!).

For one thing, I'm the one who condenses down all of the changes that
happened in a wmfXX release to the most important ones, see, eg:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.21/wmf12

(NOTE: that page doesn't yet include the reverts we did to fix the Page
Move issue.)

Now, here's the problem with the current process around the creation of
that page:

0) On every other Monday morning (pacific time) Reedy picks a
commit on master and says "right here, this is wmfXX."

1) That gets deployed to our phase 1 list of wikis (mediawiki.org,
test., test2.)

2) The Release Notes page for that wmfXX is created with the list of
changes.

3) I then start my review of it. This usually takes me about an hour of
concerted effort. There are a lot of changes and I'm unfamiliar with
about 100% of them (some bugs I may be aware of, but not all).

4) I update that release notes page with the important/breaking changes.

5) Now, from here, what should I/we do? There is now a reasonably good
list of important changes for a specific wmfXX release, with references
to bug reports (usually). I don't know EXACTLY which things will be
important to various communities/wikis and I don't want to be noisy
about things. So, your suggestions welcome if I should do something and
what after that release notes page is done.


Now, this is just one part of the process, yes. But it is one that I
have a large hand in.

Official X.XX releases of MW are more in Mark H's hands, but I don't
think that's the situation you're talking about here.


Thanks,

Greg

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