On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:35 PM, James Forrester
<[email protected]>wrote:
>
>  It would imply that this is a preference​ that Wikimedia thinks is
> appropriate. This would be a lie. For a similar example, see the removal of
> the "disable JavaScript" option from Firefox 23.
>

You still haven't explained why this preference is inappropriate.


>  It would imply that Wikimedia thinks preference bloat is an appropriate
> way
> forward for users. This would be a lie. Each added preference adds to the
> complexity of our interface, increasing even further the choice paralysis
> and laughable usability of our existing preference system.
>

Like others have said, this is not a choice between having a user
preference or not having it. It's a choice between having a consistently
functional user preference or pseudo-maintained gadgets doing the same
functionality. That adds even more bloat than another checkbox in the
Editing section (which, by the way, was just reorganized anyway).


> It would imply that Wikimedia thinks preference bloat is an appropriate way
> forward for expenditure of donor funds. This would be a lie. Each added
> preference adds to the complexity of our software - so increasing the cost
> and slowness of development and testing, and the difficulty of user
> support.
>

Stop being so dramatic. This is clearly false.


>  It would imply that Wikimedia can get rid of under-used preferences. This
> would be a lie. We do not have a successful track record of getting rid of
> preferences, even when used by a handful of our users, even when set away
> from default mostly by inactive accounts; accepting this form of product
> debt now on the spurious claim that we'll pay it off later is untrue.
>

This doesn't have anything to do with this discussion. It's already been
expressed that this will not be an under-used preference, and that numerous
members of the community want this feature.


> ​Creating such a preference is a lie, and a lie I cannot endorse.
>

In conclusion, if you really think lying to the community is so bad, then I
recommend the VE team stop doing so as well as stop shoving this propaganda
down the community's throat as if VE is the second coming.

*-- *
*Tyler Romeo*
Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016
Major in Computer Science
www.whizkidztech.com | [email protected]
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