On 4/8/14, S Page <[email protected]> wrote: > In https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/124475/ (go back to sans-serif) > Legoktm claims "There was a consensus that listing only non-free fonts was > not acceptable", that's not my recollection. Was a bug ever filed? > > Kaldari valiantly tried to put non-free fonts first, that caused bug > 63512. Now as I understand it, we're back to: > * Mac users get Helvetica Neue > * Windows users get Arial unless they have Helvetica Neue (unlikely) or > Helvetica (I can't reproduce bug 63662) > * Linux users get whatever F/OSS font fontconfig supplies for the > well-known string "Helvetica", I get Nimbus Sans L > * Android users ?? (Nobody responded.) > > quoting Isarra Yos > > >> Given that no objective and verifiable issues with this were ever provided >> ... Why? All this effort, and for what? >> > > BECAUSE DESIGN. (I begged and pleaded with the talented designers who work > next to me to put something emphatic in the Typography refresh FAQ.) It's a > better design. It makes MediaWiki web sites look better for millions of our > users by mentioning proprietary fonts that 90+% of them have. That's not > "objective and verifiable", it just is. Is it worth mentioning non-free > fonts? People disagree. But I'm saddened by the implicit and overt > hostility towards the art of design here ("its debatable whether this > actually represents "progress"",
How is that hostile to the "art of design". I have no problem with what the typo refresh project set out to do. I have a problem with what it actually did. I'm totally fine with the "art of design" as an abstract idea and I agree with 3 of the 4 stated requirements of Typo refresh (neutral on the consistency requirement). > "it seems like things have shifted more to > managers at WMF make the decisions", etc.). To clarify I never said that was necessarily a bad thing. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. All I'm saying is that seems to be the direction we're heading. Heck in the context I was arguing for the side of typography refresh... --bawolff _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
