On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:11 PM, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> Trevor Parscal wrote: > >We really need to just evolve Vector. It's not a sacred cow, and it's sort > >of sad how little it's been changed since I made in back in 2009. How it > >looks, how it works and how it responds to different devices can all be > >changed incrementally, and we can do this without continued or additional > >fragmentation. > > Agreed, kind of. > > I'm all for iterative improvements, but the trickiness here comes from > Vector's identity as a skin. Skins, in my mind, are substantively about > appearance. If we wanted to remove all the gradients from Vector, is it > still Vector? What if we kill the sidebar? At what point does choosing > Vector really mean not being able to choose anything because Vector is > always evolving. That is, there's some sense in a stable skin choice. > > Prateek is quite interested in making a new skin and I offered to help. My > suggestion was to start with Vector as a base and slowly create a new skin > from there. This way we can learn from and directly incorporate lessons > learned in the development of Monobook and Vector, but we retain the > flexibility to make larger (perhaps even "breaking") changes to the new > skin, as we slowly expand the skin's usage and learn more about what > people want and need in 2015 that perhaps wasn't possible or wasn't > considered a priority in 2009. I'm hopeful that careful, incremental > development using Vector as a base is the correct path forward. > > So now we have Blueprint, Apex, Slate, and Minerva, I suppose. > > MZMcBride > > Links for the curious: Blueprint = https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design/Living_style_guide Apex = https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Apex Slate = https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Slate Minerva = https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Beta_Features/Minerva (Tangentially, it might be useful to keep https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53912 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62317 in mind) _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
