Sorry, I meant "do NOT save", when trying dynamic graph preview. If anyone is interested, or as a student project - a simple sandbox implementation task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98312
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> wrote: > You currently can use dynamic "graph-as-you-type" in mediawiki.org for > Graph testing: > * navigate to any Graph namespace graph, e.g. > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Graph:Sample > * Go to edit source > * Click Preview > Now any change you make to the definition is dynamically reflected in the > graph. Please do save. I would love for this to eventually be done in the > VE. > > Eugene, this is an excellent idea, but graphs are no different from other > templates. I think this should be solved for all templates, to allow > template sharing between projects. > > > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Eugene Zelenko <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi, Yuri! >> >> I think will be reasonable to allow transclusion of graphs (or their >> parts, for example without text labels) from Commons. This will allow >> to share graphs between projects. >> >> Eugene. >> >> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Jon, <graph> is designed to support template parameter expansions, and I >> > found most convenient to place each graph into a separate template page. >> > >> > David, re VE - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93585 >> > >> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:27 PM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> Is there a facility to use this in VE? >> >> >> >> On 6 May 2015 at 12:25, Jon Robson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I think this is great but I'm still super super concerned about the >> >> support >> >> > for "Embedded directly with <graph>". I'm concerned as if used this >> way >> >> we >> >> > risk making wikitext even more like code and more difficult for >> others to >> >> > edit. Also having it inside the page makes it really difficult to >> >> > extract/encourage remixing of the data... >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Brian Wolff <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> On 5/5/15, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Starting today, editors can use *<graph>* tag to include complex >> >> graphs >> >> >> and >> >> >> > maps inside articles. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *Demo:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph/Demo >> >> >> > *Vega's demo:* >> >> >> http://trifacta.github.io/vega/editor/?spec=scatter_matrix >> >> >> > *Extension info:* https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Graph >> >> >> > *Vega's docs:* https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki >> >> >> > *Bug reports:* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/ - project tag >> >> #graph >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Graph tag support template parameter expansion. There is also a >> >> Graphoid >> >> >> > service to convert graphs into images. Currently, Graphoid is >> used in >> >> >> case >> >> >> > the browser does not support modern JavaScript, but I plan to use >> it >> >> for >> >> >> > all anonymous users - downloading large JS code needed to render >> >> graphs >> >> >> is >> >> >> > significantly slower than showing an image. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Potential future growth (developers needed!): >> >> >> > * Documentation and better tutorials >> >> >> > * Visualize as you type - show changes in graph while editing its >> code >> >> >> > * Visual Editor's plugin >> >> >> > * Animation < >> >> https://github.com/trifacta/vega/wiki/Interaction-Scenarios >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Project history: Exactly one year ago, Dan Andreescu (milimetric) >> and >> >> Jon >> >> >> > Robson demoed Vega visualization grammar < >> >> >> https://trifacta.github.io/vega/> >> >> >> > usage in MediaWiki. The project stayed dormant for almost half a >> year, >> >> >> > until Zero team decided it was a good solution to do on-wiki >> graphs. >> >> The >> >> >> > project was rewritten, and gained many new features, such as >> template >> >> >> > parameters. Yet, doing graphs just for Zero portal seemed silly. >> Wider >> >> >> > audience meant that we now had to support older browsers, thus >> >> Graphoid >> >> >> > service was born. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > This project could not have happened without the help from Dan >> >> Andreescu, >> >> >> > Brion Vibber, Timo Tijhof, Chris Steipp, Max Semenik, Marko >> Obrovac, >> >> >> > Alexandros Kosiaris, Jon Robson, Gabriel Wicke, and others who >> have >> >> >> helped >> >> >> > me develop, test, instrument, and deploy Graph extension and >> Graphoid >> >> >> > service. I also would like to thank the Vega team for making this >> >> amazing >> >> >> > library. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --Yurik >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hmm cool. >> >> >> >> >> >> One of the interesting things, is you can use the API as a data >> >> >> source. For example, here is a pie graph of how images on commons >> >> >> needing categories are divided up >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Sandbox&oldid=159978060 >> >> >> (One could even make that more general and have a template, which >> >> >> given a cat name, would give a pie graph of how the subcategories >> are >> >> >> divided in terms of number). >> >> >> >> >> >> --bawolff >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Jon Robson >> >> > * http://jonrobson.me.uk >> >> > * https://www.facebook.com/jonrobson >> >> > * @rakugojon >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikitech-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
