On 8/23/15, Oliver Keyes <oke...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Admins? And who are those? Please build a listing of every admin for > every possible technical venue relating to Wikimedia. > > While you're at it, we're going to need them to have a shared hivemind > so enforcement is consistent between venues. They're also going to > need to communicate about sanctions so that behaviour spilling over to > multiple venues can be factored in. And while you're doing /that/ > please make sure they all have an appropriate protocol for appealing > things and passing issues upwards. > > Or we could have a committee. > > I get that this is a technical environment and we are all, myself > included, used to being able to chip in anywhere with some utility. > But please have some respect for the people coming up with these > ideas. The idea of a code of conduct and an associated committee is > coming from smart people, and it did not spring fully-formed from > their brow like Athena from Zeus. It came from literal decades of work > by many, many other smart people in a vast number of communities that > have tried a ton of options. And when we say "why don't we just do > obvious_thing_x?" we are demonstrating a total failure to respect the > expertise other people have in this sort of process, which is > generally /not/ our expertise, and failing to do research to boot. If > it helps, imagine that instead of talking to this group about > behavioural policies, you were explaining to C.Scott or Subbu why > their idea for a parser is overly complicated and they /totally/ don't > need to be doing $THING. > > So my suggestion - and this is something I have tried to follow myself > when I don't understand the point of something in the form "bad things > are happening, why don't we do X" is to literally google "why isn't > [the obviously simple thing I thought of] a good idea?", and see what > smart people have already written. It saves from forcing marginalised > individuals to repeat, for the fiftieth time in a thread, why X is a > good approach here, and I tend to learn something along the way. >
Really, you're going to tell people to STFW on a thread about conduct? _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
