2015-09-02 1:53 GMT+02:00 MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com>: > Ori Livneh wrote: >>On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Jérémie Roquet <jroq...@arkanosis.net> >>wrote: >>> Has the RFC been abandonned because of lack of interest? >> >>Speaking for myself: at the time the RFC was written, I was skeptical that >>the benefits would be worth incurring a dependency on an external service >>(or the requirement of shelling out). But since then we have had a lot of >>discussions (in the RFC meetings) on how to do micro-services correctly, >>and some good abstractions have come out of that. So +1 for reviving it. > > I'd personally prefer that we move in the other direction, removing the > minification. I think it's harmful to the open Web to minify, or worse, > obfuscate our code. As expected, we've encountered a number of bugs that > disappear when the debug=true URL parameter is specified. And given other > performance optimization work and existing optimizations such as gzip > compression, I don't see the benefits outweighing the costs.
I had the same point of view only a few days ago (discussions at Debian got me there), but since then, I've changed my mind after some experiments: minification can save additional percents compared to gzip (the actual impact for our code is to be computed, but for jQuery, it's already about half the size). I see no need to obfuscate for the sake of obfuscation, indeed, but neither do I see how minification can be harmful to the open Web per se: in our case, the original, non-mangled source code is always available. In my eyes, it's not different from running binaries or bytecode instead of interpreting the source code for performance reasons: as long as you have the source code and the ability to do reproducible builds, it's ok. As for bugs, I fully agree with you. It's an argument against minification, but also an argument in favor of dropping JSMin+ for another more used and actively maintained minifier, such as UglifyJS. Best regards, -- Jérémie _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
