On 9/5/15, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oliver Keyes wrote:
>>On the general subject of codes of conduct and what they bring (or
>>don't bring) in terms of user safety and a sense of inclusion, I
>>recently encountered http://wp.me/p11Aax-4aq on Twitter - it's an
>>interesting read and brings up a couple of points definitely worth
>>thinking about, namely that the intent behind a CoC is not to be the
>>be-all and end-all of user safety but instead to set a very minimum bound
>>of what is acceptable.
>
> Am I supposed to know what a manfeeling is? It seems weird to me that the
> push (perhaps a movement, who knows) to implement codes of conduct has
> become so enmeshed with the ultra-liberal feminist movement. I think there
> are people who sympathize with and even support efforts to have codes of
> conduct in technical spaces, but who don't want to feel demonized for
> being male. There's a dark irony in sites such as Geek Feminism Wiki
> feeling the need to prominently answer "Are men welcome here?" in their
> FAQ (<http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Geek_Feminism_Wiki_FAQ>).
>
> This isn't to say that there aren't good ideas and good people behind some
> of this content, but I can see a lot potential allies to the code of
> conduct cause being put off by the militant feminist language and
> overeager citations of feminist theory.
>
> MZMcBride
>
>


I'm not sure what the phrase "ultra-liberal feminist movement" means,
but if what you're trying to say is that all the "You're either with
us- or you're an evil scumbag" rhetoric is getting annoying (and
probably backfiring on those employing it), then I agree 100%.

--
bawolff

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