Hi,
my name is Volker, I’m part of the Editing department on the Design
team and I’m leading the UI Standardization efforts at the Foundation.

I would like to address Pine's original response about community
involvement – when I've started my employment at the Foundation one of
the first things I've identified was a shortcoming in several user
interface elements' colors to provide sufficient contrast [1] for
people with visual impairments. We then started the work by reaching
out to community members, several of those were active on
accessibility related conversations. Based on the expertise of myself,
other designers at the Foundation, developers' and community members'
feedback we came up with the current color palette [2].
We've been proceeding as sensitive as possible in the follow-up
changes, making the interface better for a specific group of people
and certain use cases (think interaction in sunlight on mobile devices
for example) without negatively affecting any other group or use case
at all.
The first, widely visible change was featured in the Tech News. [3]

A consistently applied, harmonious (and limited) color palette is
important for recognition and a good user experience. Sometimes
context wins over consistency, therefore designers in collaboration
with myself have decided to provide “just” a base palette which should
be sufficient for the majority of interface needs – while some of the
interface challenges [4] might need to feature colors outside of this
palette in order to be solved, with further contributions of community
members.
Clearly, we also might learn about important issues that have not yet
been solved, and need to be addressed in the palette.

For such issues and for staying up-to-date on general activities,
please feel free to subscribe to the UI Standardization overview [5]
and Kanban [6] workboards or to file a task tagged with "UI
Standardization".
Our current work has also been visible in the weekly Scrum of Scrum
notes lately, although I had to skip the last two notes for capacity
and travel reasons.
Additionally we're planning an Unconference session on the already
accomplished work of the user interface guidelines – including the
color palette – at the upcoming Wikimedia Developer Summit [7].

Your feedback is not only welcome, but important to evolve our
interface in the right manner.

Regards,
Volker

[1]: 
https://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/visual-audio-contrast-contrast.html
[2]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/M82
[3]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/41
[4]: Example: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151938 – Add Yellow70
to the color palette
[5]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ui-standardization/
[6]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/ui-standardization-kanban/
[7]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit


On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Neil P. Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Strainu and Pine:
>
> If developers learn they can't trust you to distinguish reasonable
> expectations from unreasonable ones (this falls into the "ludicrously
> unreasonable" category, by the way), don't be surprised if they ultimately
> start to doubt even your legitimate complaints.
>
> There are very important discussions to be had about how software
> development works in the Wikimedia movement. This is absolutely not one of
> them.
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Strainu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 2016-12-12 10:21 GMT+02:00 Quim Gil <[email protected]>:
>> > Hi, let me check this incident under the light of the Technical
>> > Collaboration Guideline
>> > <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guideline>
>> (draft
>> > under review, feedback welcome in the related discussion pages).
>> >
>> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_
>> Guideline/Milestone_communication
>> > defines when and where are communications expected.
>>
>> Thank you for the pragmatic approach Quim. I launched 2 discussions
>> there, referring to changes that require action from the communities
>> [1] and changes affecting large number of pages [2]. Hopefully we can
>> find a middle ground on at least some of the subjects.
>>
>> Strainu
>>
>> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Th1vs3h97d96ajaf
>> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Th1wc4pu1qplo4k8
>>
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