2016-12-10 11:07 GMT+02:00 Gergo Tisza <[email protected]>: > For reference, these are the changes being discussed: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F5022813 > > > 1) Significantly larger changes than this are happening all the time (the > OOUI-ification of old forms, for example), without anyone noticing,
Agreed. However, these changes do not apply to millions of articles. It's a question of scale and visibility. > it's pretty clear people are reacting to the announcement here and not the > actual change. That's one way to put it. I would rather say that we reacted to yet another slip-up in communication from the Foundation. Why is it so hard for you guys to push the information to wikis? > > There is nothing wrong with not paying attention to something well outside > your work area, and people should not be excluded from a discussion topic > just because they are new (or casual) to it, but please consider how it > creates an unhealthy community dynamic when people are criticized for > announcing changes which would otherwise go unnoticed. I don't think an RFC was needed, but: 1. an announcement on this list with a phabricator number would have been nice 2. an announcement *on wiki, before the deployment* was mandatory. The rest of your mail does not seem related to this particular change, so I'll respond separately. 2016-12-10 1:43 GMT+02:00 Andre Klapper <[email protected]>: > Regarding a heads-up, would it have helped to have these changes listed > in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/49 ? Yes, with a follow-up in /50. Do note that the text in /50 is insufficient, you might want to add something like what Amir said: "in order to keep consistency between all elements of a wiki page, change such usages in your Mediawiki:Common.css (for example for infoboxes)." That's because not all TechNews readers can deduce action items by themselves. HTH, Strainu _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
