Hi there, I think I am having a(nother) senior moment! I don’t recall what event you have in mind. Sorry! Can you please remind me?
Victoria > On Apr 28, 2017, at 2:25 PM, zppix e <megadev44s.m...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Victoria, > Thanks for replying quickly, however what about the event I suggested, any > thoughts on that? > > > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Victoria Coleman <vcole...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Quim and his team have indeed thought through the totality of tech >> community events and I am sure he can respond here with his thoughts. >> Regarding the MediaWiki roadmap, the thinking is that by publishing it we >> a/make planning for 3rd party users much more feasible, b/inform the >> community about what the Foundation will be doing so that we can avoid >> overlap, and c/hopefully incentivize broader participation by the >> community in the formulation and delivery of the roadmap. >> >> I hope this makes sense. >> >> Victoria >> >>> On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Different events serve very different purposes, though - hackathons, for >> instance, seem to be largely useful for onboarding newcomers and giving >> staff and other occupational contributors an opportunity to work on >> projects separate from their usual work, basically whatever they feel like >> doing, as opposed to what they have to. But these often don't do much for >> established volunteers, as a result, who generally just work on whatever >> they feel like all the time already. Have you looked into how the roles of >> these different events fit together across all the different groups, and >> how scopes affect them (regional, topical, etc)? This would also be useful >> for chapters/groups planning their own events. >>> >>> How exactly is publishing a roadmap going to help facilitate community >> contributions? >>> >>> -I >>> >>> On 27/04/17 03:11, Victoria Coleman wrote: >>>> Hi Isarra, >>>> >>>> thank you for the question. We want to support our diverse technical >> communities in a variety of ways. One of our key tools are the hackathons, >> where we hope to welcome both seasoned and new volunteer developers. We >> want to support them not just by providing a series of events but also with >> tools and WMF staff time. These are the key goals of our new Wikimedia >> Cloud Services team. They build and make labs and tools available and >> participate in the hackathons to onboard newcomers and in general assist >> volunteers. Another key change we are making this year is creating the >> MediaWiki Platform team who as well as doing much needed work on the >> codebase will also facilitate contributions and planning with the volunteer >> community by publishing a roadmap. And as Quim notes below we are changing >> the nature of the Dev Summit to have it focus on the strategic technology >> issues and decisions the Movement is faced with. As such it is an event >> that might appeal more to the seasoned members of our community. Attendance >> for the summit will be decided on the basis of position papers for WMF >> staff and volunteers alike. I am personally excited about the lineup of >> events this coming year. But as always we learn and adapt. If we >> collectively decide to try for a different configuration the following >> year, we can totally do that. Please keep the feedback coming! >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Victoria >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Regarding the Developers Summit in particular, how do you plan to >> reconcile making the event smaller with your goal of better retention of >> newcomers and volunteers in general when that's often the only venue they >> have at which to discuss the high-level technical issues with other >> stakeholders? Volunteer and third-party developers are not privy to most of >> the usual venues afforded to WMF staff such as inter-team meetings and >> events, and yet they make up an important part of the overall stakeholder >> community that these issues impact. They - we - need to be able to >> participate in these discussions, and the Developers Summit is one of very >> few opportunities even open to us where we can make our voices heard. >>>>> >>>>> -I >>>>> >>>>> On 20/04/17 07:28, Quim Gil wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 1:14 AM, Quim Gil<q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, the Wikimedia Foundation has published a draft of its Annual Plan >>>>>>> FY2017-18 >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_ >> Annual_Plan/2017-2018/Draft> >>>>>>> and it welcomes your review. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I want to highlight here the improvements that we are proposing to >> the >>>>>>> developer events (co)organized by the WMF. From local to global: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Technical Collaboration team proposes to combine multiple >> activities >>>>>>> (often disconnected) in a single program focusing on onboarding new >>>>>>> developers >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_ >> Annual_Plan/2017-2018/Draft/Programs/Community_Engagement# >> Program_12:_Onboarding_new_developers>. We >>>>>>> want to work with the Wikimedia technical community to bring a new >> wave of >>>>>>> developers to our projects, and events play an important role. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Local developer events >>>>>>> We want to support developers and organizations willing to reach out >> to >>>>>>> specific groups and geographies. We are hoping to see many local >> developer >>>>>>> meetups and small hackathons or workshops around the World, starting >> small >>>>>>> and simple. We should be able to offer introductory materials, >> contacts >>>>>>> with Wikimedia developers in the region, maybe travel budget to send >>>>>>> experienced volunteers to help mentoring the in the bigger events, >> maybe >>>>>>> travel budget to invite the best newcomers to our regional and global >>>>>>> events. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding tech to regional Wikimedia events >>>>>>> Last year we experimented organizing technical workshops in >> WikiArabia, >>>>>>> and others have done similar efforts in other regional events (for >>>>>>> instance, a small hackathon next to WikiConference India). We want >> to work >>>>>>> with the organizers of these regional events in order to attract >>>>>>> experienced Wikimedia developers and newcomers, organize developer >>>>>>> activities, and also improve the collaboration between the technical >> and >>>>>>> non-technical contributors in these regions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Better retention of newcomers at the Wikimedia and Wikimania >> hackathons >>>>>>> Although we don't expect major changes in the organization of the >>>>>>> Wikimedia Hackathon and the hackathon at Wikimania, we want to focus >> better >>>>>>> on new developers onboarding and retention. In every Hackathon we >> meet many >>>>>>> new developers, but the retention rates are very low. We want to >> review >>>>>>> what we can do before, during, and after these apparently successful >> events >>>>>>> in order to retain newcomers better. One hypothesis is that we >> should focus >>>>>>> call for participation, scholarships, and Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>> participation in providing a great experience to new volunteers who >> have >>>>>>> gone through local and regional events, and also "junior" developers >> coming >>>>>>> from wiki projects through the development of bots, gadgets, tools, >>>>>>> templates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A smaller and more focused Wikimedia Developer Summit >>>>>>> After some discussions between Community Engagement, Technology, and >>>>>>> Product, we have decided to propose a different approach for the >> Wikimedia >>>>>>> Developer Summit. Organized by the Technology department as part of >> their technical >>>>>>> community building >>>>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_ >> Annual_Plan/2017-2018/Draft/Programs/Technology#Program_4: >> _Technical_community_building> >>>>>>> efforts, we want the Summit to finally become the venue where the >> toughest >>>>>>> technical problems are discussed between the stakeholders directly >> related. >>>>>>> We want to reduce the size/budget of the event, separate it from the >> WMF >>>>>>> AllHands, >>>>>>> >>>>>> Due to travel budget considerations, the Summit still might be >> connected to >>>>>> the WMF AllHands. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and define its main themes well in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A Program Committee<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T160996> >> would >>>>>>> decide these main themes to be discussed at the Summit. We also want >> to >>>>>>> explore the possibility of tackling some of these themes at the >> Wikimedia >>>>>>> Hackathon and Wikimania, where we could get most stakeholders >> involved with >>>>>>> just a little extra effort (since many of them would be attending >> anyway). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We believe that this approach will serve better the Wikimedia >> technical >>>>>>> community that we have, and also the the community that we want to >> have, >>>>>>> with a new wave of developers joining our various projects. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Quim Gil >>>>>>> Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation >>>>>>> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
