Hi Rick and all, I am using Google as a third party e-mail provider. If it had not been for them mangling the from address then I could have continued to do so. I am now on the lookout for a cheap but reliable third party provider who would let me use their SMTP server with a from header of my choice.
Pranav -----Original Message----- From: Windows Home/SOHO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Gmail changing from header when sending from smtp.gmail.com Bernie, well stated... All of this is why I suggested using non-default ports (ones likely to NOT be blocked by an ISP) AND sending e-mail DIRECTLY to and through a third party host ESMTP server... I will say it again, Google is the "Poster Child" of how to do this right, since they are NOT an ISP (that I know of) and HAVE to have a way for all of this to work for POP3 and ESMTP... AFTER they see how Google does this, I am not saying they need to use them (for e-mail)... I do not. (I have accounts, but they are some of my most inactive...) In a reply to me, they mentioned they HAVE to be connected to the DSL of their provider... "Some" traditional ISPs will not allow mail relays into their system on default ports from a connection outside their Domain. I never noticed if that was the specific problem here... (That opens a whole different topic and can of worms...) PLUS, In my case, their own dial-up has been port blocked differently than their own DSL.. (And not always in a way that makes ANY sense...) In lots of cases I only use the the ISP for the connection to "get to" the Internet, and then use other companies (and their servers) for my actual e-mail transmissions... We are all bogged down talking about the ISP... I have ditched ISPs over this type of problem. BUT, I then found this other, legal, and in all cases authenticated way to send my e-mail... The other, third party e-mail hosts have to support this "higher port" stuff, and more of them are, since port 25 blocking will become more common since it is an easy and clueless way to fight SPAM (relays). (At a SPAM 101 level...) I can feel a soap box coming (alert, alert) I have HAD to forge and spoof my e-mail in the past to get my e-mail through because my ISP was using a system so poorly thought out that my "100% squeeky clean" ISP e-mails were being rejected my other ISPs as a relay... That is an odd concept, and too hard to detail exactly... Hint: It had to do with the ISP renting modem pools (and servers) themselves, and depended on WHICH "modem pool landlord" you connected to, and/or which backbone THEY were connected to... So I used relays they never knew about and beat them at their own game AFTER being FORCED into the exact thing they were trying to prevent... (These were personal e-mails to my sister BTW... Nothing shady...) Idiots... End of rant... I never SPAM, (unless you would call this rant that...) <grin> Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernie Cosell" Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 11:11 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.19/231 - Release Date: 1/16/2006 -- ---------------------------------------- The WIN-HOME mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html -- ---------------------------------------- The WIN-HOME mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html
