I'm a Window-Eyes user - or I was - and it seemed to me that as Window-Eyes kept updating its Scripts, Apps or whatever you call them - the worse the Screen Reader got.
A classic case in point is that dreadful thing GW Micro call Browse mode and I won't repeat everything I've already said about it as everything I said still unfortunately holds true, I just tell any user to compare with say NVDA or JAWS and spot the difference. On 13/07/2013, at 12:15 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Dane, Could you qualify that statement please? I have to admit that in some > respects NVDA is also very much floundering in the dark. There are add-ons > which make more functionality possible, that is true. But in some respects > NVDA is a little like the blind leading the blind. Window-Eyes, on the same > screen, (RollBAck's Main Menu, for instance), is far more functional and easy > to navigate. Also on some websites NVDA just gets itself in a total tangle, > whereas other screen-readers including Window-Eyes cope very well. I haven't > yet had the opportunity to try the same resources with Jaws, but I'm sure it > would handle them fine. So what I'm asking you is how specifically > Window-Eyes has gone down hill? Perhaps if you could qualify what you're > saying, others could try the same experiments to see what results they get. > Be mindful also of the fact that it is entirely possible that local > configuration parameters can often profoundly impact on the performance of > high level r > esources such as Window-Eyes and NVDA, and that is why I am asking you to > qualify your statement. > > I am not advocating GW Micro, nor am I defending them. I merely am > interested to know what you mean. > > Harping back to a previous comment you made about Windows 8 in another post, > can you qualify that too? You said, I believe, that you haven't tried > Windows 8. If that is the case, how do you support your comments regarding > accessibility? Are you taking your information from the comments of others? > If so, as somebody who has used and is using Windows 8, I would like to know > what the original author of the accessibility issues comment was eluding too. > Again, as somebody who has used it for quite some time, I find it to be at > least as accessible as Windows 7, profoundly more accessible than Windows > Vista and, once you get used to the new interface, just as accessible and > navigable as Windows XP which, as I believe Chris also pointed out on list > some time ago, will be discontinued as of 30 June 2014. Indeed, I believe > that Office 2007 support is also to be discontinued shortly if it hasn't > already been. > > I remember that when I installed Window-Eyes version 8, I read something in > GW's documentation about "Limited" support for Office 2013. If that is the > case, they had better get their proverbial skates on. NVDA appears, for > example, to work fine with Word 2013, although I have not yet tried any of > the other Office components. System Access also appears very usable with > Windows 8, although I haven't as yet tried it with Office 2010 or Office 2013. > > Kind regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > <[email protected]> > > Telephone: > > United Kingdom: Free Phone: > 0800 8620538 > > Mobile: > +44 7907 823971 > > Europe and other non-specified: > +44 1642 688095 > > United States Of America And Canada: > +1 646 9151493 > Or: > +1 209 436 9443 > > Vic. Australia: > +61 38 8205930 > Vic. 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