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Now Keith, you know better than that.

Just because the County Board and some County staff have become involved in
the Wilson Township issue, that does NOT mean we think townships are
outdated or ineffecient.

I will admit that at a purely theoretical or brainstorming level, your
question about townships could be an interesting one if it was broadened to
include all levels of government.

The problem is that kind of conversation can only really happen with a
group that trusts each other and that is willing to work with others as
equals in a fair and open way.

There are perceptions (not necessariy facts) that those qualities are not
exactly the Winona City Council's strong points.

It's one thing to get rid of Townships so you can annex the whole planet
with less resistance.

It's a whole other thing to sit down in an open and respectful way and
say,"let's put everything on the table and see if there might be better
ways of doing things, even if it means giving up some of 'our' power and
turf."

Do you think the City Council would be willing to change, let alone cede
"power" to other bodies?  Heck, would the City Council even be willing to
work with others in a process they can not totally control the outcome of,
let alone the process itself?

In any discussion of possible new configurations of townships, city
councils, and county boards, I believe it's paramount to make sure rural
interests (i.e. farmers, land owners, the environment, etc.) are protected
from those who are only interested in short term profit and pavement.

To simply get "rid of townships" like some developers and city staff would
like, does not solve problems.  That would only compound problems.  We need
to think about the problems in other ways.

As to your other assertion that, ">It appears, from the lack of responses
to the question...," be careful with the conclusions you jump to.  Absence
of evidence is not the same thing as evidnence of absence.  Said another
way, just because people aren't leaping out of their cyber chairs to pounce
on your question does not mean you have proven a point.  People are busy
and we get pulled in different directions.  Gosh knows I've asked some
questions in this forum and there have been no responses.  That does not
mean my points are correct.  It means people are too busy (or bored by my
questions).

;->

Dwayne Voegeli

Jan. 11, 2005


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>It appears, from the lack of responses to the question "What does a
>township offer that the County can't do more effectively?" that the only
>apparent answer is that people like the closeness they feel to the
>township form of government vs. county.  That is a valid response.
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>As County officials have actively become involved in the annexation
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>Winona, Minnesota
>507 457 8274
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