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Your logic mystifies me!!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Paul Double
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 9:40 AM
To: Online Democracy
Subject: FW: [Winona] tire burning plant?

Now let me read between the lines of the postings----

 

1)  We believe that either the laws of the land don’t meet our basis of scientific evidence therefore we are above the law because we are smarter.

2)  We believe we should control where people can invest or buy because we understand their market and customers better than they do.

3)  When State and National regulations do not meet our standards we of the minority should have veto power over the majority because we are smarter.

4)  The legislature, the courts, the enforcement officers are dumb because they allow these things even though they are within the law and meet the written rules.

5)  We should write more Departmental administrative rules and orders because they do not require democracy to work and we know we are smarter and our intentions are better because we are the protectors of the uninformed and “the children”.

6)  We will stop, slow growth and economic development regardless of fact that they must follow existing laws and procedure because the regulators don’t understand that all corporations are evil and all things that consume resources are bad and that by delaying them we will economically force them to move else ware or give up.

7)  And it they build SUV’s or developments outside of major cities we are justified to burn, paint, bash or destroy them because we are right and above the law and they are powerful and write the rules.

 

As the saying goes “Give me a break”

 

Paul Double

 

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gail Bradbury
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Monday, February 28, 2005 4:34 PM

I agree with Bob.  Also, Bob, if it meets environmental requirements, wouldn't it make more sense to have it near a metropolitan area where more waste tires are generated.

Gail Bradbury

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Bob Sebo
Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2005 4:11 PM

 

Paul and Tom and everybody...I am very uncomfortable with the way this whole project has unfolded...and not just because of the method of reclamation they have in mind.  This project deserves further review.

 

Here are my observations on Heartland Energy.  My writings reflect my understanding of the situation.  I believe the following to be facts.  If I am incorrect, I invite corrections.

 

Representative Davids' behavior, as reported in reliable media, has been inexcusable.  I understand that his father-in-law is a driving force behind the project.  Did he really tell a project opponent that his lawyer would 'rip out (their) eyeballs and piss on their brain' as has been reported?  I understand he apologized on the floor of the House...too little too late for a committee chair, I think.

 

An EIS needs to be completed on the project.  Opponents have alleged that this might be the largest tire burning plant on the planet.  I have also heard statements that work done in the prelimary EAW for Heartland was based on decades old emissions data assuming a significantly smaller facility than is currently proposed.  That tells me more homework needs to be done.

 

I want to see waste tires recycled.  But when you burn them, bad things can happen.  Here is a partial list of hazardous chemicals released by burning waste tires:

 

Tetrachlorodibenzofuran (TCDF); Tetrachlorodibenzodioxin; Total polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs); Chromium (hexavalent); Lead; Naphthalene; Acenaphthylene; Phenanthrene; Anthracene; Pyrene; Flouranthrene; Total toxic PAH's;  Benzene

 

That from one on-line source.  We need to make sure that their scrubbers will work.  That's why we need an EIS.

 

I know some would oppose this project no matter what.  I am not one of them.  But I do not on blind faith accept that this plant will be safe.  I need to be convinced.  The huge piles of tires that dominated the landscape in the 1970's are gone.  We can always put them in road paving or find some other use.  There is no tire crisis today.

 

Bob Sebo

Winona

 

 

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