Dave, you are correct. I used to the a moderator for the Yahoo Kenwood TS-2000 group. At first there were a lot of problems but then myself and two others volunteered to be moderators and we set it up so that all new members had their messages moderated when they initially joined the group. This means that their posts are emailed to us only, and we have to approve each one before it will be sent out to the rest of the group. Usually one can tell from the first message if the member is a ham having a genuine interest in the group, or if it is someone advertising something or other spam. When a spammer sends his first message, we would immediately remove him from the group. If a ham sends a message that is somewhat germane to the topic of the group then we would immediately approve the message and then change his status to 'unmoderated', so that future posts by that person would immediately be sent to the whole group. Using this scheme, and with 3 moderators to handle the chore, we kept a group of over 250 members to absolutely ZERO spam.
As moderators we also had the responsibility to manage the files that were uploaded to the group, sometimes removing or compressing old files to make more room as the available message space was filled up. This did not have to be done often though. If the Winrad group decides to change over to Yahoo, it would be a good idea to set it up the same way, and get a few volunteers to manage it. Sorry for the off topic message, I thought it might be useful for people to see how it could work. 73, Russ K2TXB > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wade > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:02 PM > To: winrad discussion list > Subject: Re: [Winrad] Problems with this list > > Folks, > > I am on a number of Yahoo lists and they only stay spam free > if they are managed properly. That is new members posts MUST > be moderated. I also have not managed to get rid of the yukky > HTML mail that new lists seem to generate. I have also left > some lists because of the spam from un-moderated lists, > > Dave G4UGM > Illegitimi Non Carborundum > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'winrad discussion list'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Winrad] Problems with this list > > > >I vote for a move to Yahoo. It has proven to be mostly spam > free in the > > past years that I have been a group member on it. > > Plus, we will get a searchable archive of all posts as well > as some file > > space to share files. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf > > Of Alberto I2PHD > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:53 AM > > To: winrad discussion list > > Subject: [Winrad] Problems with this list > > > > Since some days there is a constant flow of administrative messages > > announcing bounces and the consequent unsubscribe > > from this list of the addresses responsible for the > bounces. But checking > > with the administrative interface, often the > > unsubscribe has not taken place. > > > > Probably somewhere some ISP did put the address of this > list in some black > > lists as spam originator, which obviously is > > not true. This has already happened in the past, it was > fixed not without > > some efforts by Jeffrey WA6KBL, and it is > > likely to happen again in the future. > > > > I am wondering if it would not be better to move this list > to Yahoo. Yahoo > > is seen by some as the evil, as in the past > > it was a big generator of spam. But that is a thing of the > past. They took > > some good measures against that, and now, if > > the list is responsibly administered, one can be sure of receiving > > absolutely no spam. And I can tell this from the > > experience I have being the group administrator of three > other lists on > > Yahoo. > > > > Besides that, Yahoo offers other possibilities, like optional HTML > > messages > > (if you are paranoid and hate HTML, you can > > always choose to receive plain text messages) where > pictures and diagrams > > can be shown, good archives, a File and Photos > > sections, etc. About HTML, many think that it is a vehicle > of viruses. > > Well, > > I am on Internet since more than 15 years, > > and exchange daily HTML messages with my correspondents, > and I still have > > to > > catch my first virus... it takes just a bit > > of caution, a good anti-virus, and mainly to absolutely not > use Outlook > > Express nor Internet Explorer. I am a happy user > > of Firefox and Thunderbird, and, as said, viruses are not a > problem for > > me. > > > > All of the above just to ask your opinion about a move of > this list to > > Yahoo, where I already have a list named Winrad, > > which was put on hold when moving here, to this > Mailman-managed group. > > > > If the majority will agree, I suggest that all the > subscribers to this > > list > > will be moved automatically to the Yahoo > > list, unless they express a negative will. > > > > I have been myself unsubscribed from this list due to > bounces, and I am a > > bit fed up with all its vagaries. I have never > > had problems with the three Yahoo list which I administer, > nor with the > > other 42 of which I am member. > > > > Waiting for your opinions, thanks > > > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Winrad mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Winrad mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Winrad mailing list > [email protected] > http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org > > _______________________________________________ Winrad mailing list [email protected] http://winrad.org/mailman/listinfo/winrad_winrad.org
