Hi Alberto,

Give Yahoo a try, I am a member of several of their lists and presently
things are working well.

Best Regards,
 
Peter Conway g3ufi Hastings UK JO00GV
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Of Alberto I2PHD
Sent: 16 January 2008 15:53
To: winrad discussion list
Subject: [Winrad] Problems with this list

Since some days there is a constant flow of administrative messages
announcing bounces and the consequent unsubscribe 
from this list of the addresses responsible for the bounces. But checking
with the administrative interface, often the 
unsubscribe has not taken place.

Probably somewhere some ISP did put the address of this list in some black
lists as spam originator, which obviously is 
not true. This has already happened in the past, it was fixed not without
some efforts by Jeffrey WA6KBL, and it is 
likely to happen again in the future.

I am wondering if it would not be better to move this list to Yahoo. Yahoo
is seen by some as the evil, as in the past 
it was a big generator of spam. But that is a thing of the past. They took
some good measures against that, and now, if 
the list is responsibly administered, one can be sure of receiving
absolutely no spam. And I can tell this from the 
experience I have being the group administrator of three other lists on
Yahoo.

Besides that, Yahoo offers other possibilities, like optional HTML messages
(if you are paranoid and hate HTML, you can 
always choose to receive plain text messages) where pictures and diagrams
can be shown, good archives, a File and Photos 
sections, etc. About HTML, many think that it is a vehicle of viruses. Well,
I am on Internet since more than 15 years, 
and exchange daily HTML messages with my correspondents, and I still have to
catch my first virus... it takes just a bit 
of caution, a good anti-virus, and mainly to absolutely not use Outlook
Express nor Internet Explorer. I am a happy user 
of Firefox and Thunderbird, and, as said, viruses are not a problem for me.

All of the above just to ask your opinion about a move of this list to
Yahoo, where I already have a list named Winrad, 
which was put on hold when moving here, to this Mailman-managed group.

If the majority will agree, I suggest that all the subscribers to this list
will be moved automatically to the Yahoo 
list, unless they express a negative will.

I have been myself unsubscribed from this list due to bounces, and I am a
bit fed up with all its vagaries. I have never 
had problems with the three Yahoo list which I administer, nor with the
other 42 of which I am member.

Waiting for your opinions, thanks

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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