Hi, Jeff. " ...pushing the average to no more than about 6..." Do you mean 6 residents? and what is the average number of wireless devices per resident in your campus? thanks.
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 17:50 -0800, Jeffrey Sessler wrote: > In our residential halls we've deployed dual-radio 802.11n AP's at a > level where we average no more than 10 people per AP. Moving > forward, our new residential halls will move to an AP per suite, > pushing the average to no more than about 6. At our peak demand per > day, our campus client-per-AP average is about 5.5. We're seeing peak > bandwidth use on Wireless in range of 400Mbps downstream and 100Mbs > upstream. > > Since 2003, we've offered "Gigabit to the Pillow," but with the advent > of the WiFi coverage, use of the wired ports is now minimal. In fact, > when I mentioned to a first-year that she had the option of using a > wired ethernet port, she said "What's that?" > > Jeff > > >>> On Thursday, November 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM, in message > <[email protected]>, "Hanset, Philippe C" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron, > > Frank implemented his reply-to on his own. There is nothing that we > can do to prevent that I believe. > (Frank, would you please change that setting) > > About the article, we are facing the same... people want a "home" > experience in their dorms, > and the expectations are insane. This said, with the amount of devices > without a wired ethernet > capability, it's hard to tell users to go back to a cable! > I have just proposed a design at UTK that would have each Wi-Fi AP > shared by 8 people on average in the dorms, and Wired "on demand". > (e.g. $40 per semester for an activation) > The cables and switches are there, but completely underused (mostly > used because our initial Wi-Fi was built as a complement). > Wireless only in the dorms is a great thing in term of capacity > planning. You don't have sleeping ethernet ports anymore. > Our switches are going on 8-9 years, so instead of replacing them we > might just have switches for wireless with a little extra > capacity for "wired on demand". > Providing wireless coverage and capacity for 8 people per AP and > changing only switches needed for wireless will have a cost very > similar to > replacing all current switches (we plan to locate APs in bedrooms, no > extra wiring cost!). > We have heard of many successful stories of wireless only dorms on > this list, we certainly hope to share it. > > We also plan to have one wireless subnet per dorm to support MDNS > (Bonjour etc...). > Bring your Apple TVs and Airplays kids... > (maybe some rate limiting ;-) > > Best, > > Philippe > Univ. of TN, Knoxville > > > > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Parker, Ron wrote: > > > It looks like the reply-to on the list isn't working right or > something. I posted a witty rejoinder to this message and it went only > to the original poster rather than the list. Frank has probably > implemented an e-mail sender filter as a result. Perhaps our gracious > list admin could check and see if I'm mistaken? > > > > I couldn't tell how much of what happened at Skidmore was a Time > Warner problem versus other issues. There seem to be a lot of things > all going on at the same time. I've heard my colleagues at other > colleges talk about challenges with outsourcing residence hall > networking. One of them had what sounds like a similar experience with > a virus outbreak at the beginning of this semester. Unfortunately, it > was the college IT staff running around fixing things and taking the > blame rather than the vendor. > > > > Since this is the wireless list, I'll focus on the wireless issues. > If you ask me, this is the important quote: "'The original design of > the wireless system in the residence halls was to provide supplemental > coverage to the wired network in your rooms," said Sipher'" So a > student is sitting there with an unused 100 meg or gig wired port that > would probably work fine but the Skidmore folks are being sent running > around with their hair on fire because the outsourced wireless is > overloaded. I just think user expectations of wireless are unrealistic > and we in IT are probably not doing a good job of correcting that. I > routinely tell people here to use a wired connection if what they are > doing is important. This is in spite of the fact that we have a > honking new wireless system with the latest and greatest magic > available. > > > > I am definitely in the club of "been there done that" along with the > folks at Skidmore. Sounds like they are trying to do a good job of > communicating about the situation and I've always found that goes a > long way towards making everyone happier. There is a lot of good > information in that article. > > > > -- > > Ron Parker, Director of Information Technology, Brazosport College > > Voice: (979) 230-3480 FAX: (979) 230-3111 > > http://www.brazosport.edu > > > > This e-mail sent from my non-mobile, 64-bit, quad core, Windows 7 > workstation. > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:02 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] College deals with wireless issues > >> > >> > http://www.skidmorenews.com/news/information-technology-department-addresses > >> -wireless-issues-1.2691856#.TrvkfkMUqdA > >> > >> This article has some details but doesn't make it very clear if all > the > >> problems have been DNS or otherwise, but I thought there might be > some > >> people on this list who find this news article interesting. > >> > >> I don't think Skidmore is on this list, as I don't meant to > embarrass > >> anyone. We've all "been there" in one circumstance or another. > >> > >> Frank > >> > >> ********** > >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent > >> Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ********** > > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > -- Leo Song, Senior Analyst & Cluster Lead Computing and Communication Services - Networking and Security University of Guelph (519) 824-4120 x 53181 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
