Thanks for the capture. This is really interesting!
-- Hunter Fuller Network Engineer VBRH M-9B +1 256 824 5331 Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama in Huntsville Systems and Infrastructure I am part of the UAH Safe Zone LGBTQIA support network: http://www.uah.edu/student-affairs/safe-zone On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Trent Hurt <trent.h...@louisville.edu> wrote: > Xbox one controller is on 5GHz. Here is pic of it from spectrum > analyzer. Also the wii u has miracast from console to controller and it is > on 5GHz as well. > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Joann Williamson > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:05 PM > > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms > > > > Here is what we are thinking since we “enjoy” a similar situation at > USCA. We have two WISMs, 1142’s & 1252’s &2602’s, Cisco NCS Infrastructure > reporting, and the ability to triangulate the rogue devices. I hate the > amount of time our one network engineer has to put into finding about 89 > rogue devices in our housing area that has about 1000 beds. Faculty/staff > wireless on campus is rock solid, too. They are not the ones really > utilizing BYOD. > > > > So, our plan of attack is going to be encouraging everyone to use 5Ghz > because that’s the larger spectrum with more room. We plan to tell > students to bring dual band devices for doing their assignments in their > room. We noticed most all activity is on the 2.4Ghz side of things. Is > that the case with most of you? We plan to put those recommended laptops > and tablets for our students on our website so they don’t have to try to > find a dual band device on their own. Most of the airport cards have been > dual band for a while, the 3rd generation iPad has dual band, and the > problem can really be seen in student’s brining single band laptops, single > band bargain tablets and older smartphones to housing. > > > > Additionally, we plan on deploying *more* APs and possibly turning down > the 2.4Ghz frequency. We want to increase our lowest connection speed (for > the clients) to 36mbps or 48mbps in the WISM on the 2.4Ghz side. I am > hoping this is going cause the students with Bluetooth > speakers/headphones, mobile hotspots, microwaves, older analog wireless > phones, and wireless printers not to interfere as greatly as they are now. > > > > 5Ghz is just less crowded, but I am worried that the feat of telling > students to bring a dual band device is going to make their eyes glaze > over. That’s going to be a challenge for us in this plan. Does anyone > have any thoughts about our plan? I am open to suggestions. Has anyone > seen a 5ghz wireless printer, yet? Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Joann L. Williamson > > Director of Network Systems, Architecture, & Infrastructure > > Computer Services Department at USC Aiken > > phone: 803-641-3473 > > http://www.usca.edu > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *T. Shayne Ghere > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:29 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms > > > > Our policy states if a device interferes with our network, then we reserve > the right to have that device removed. The problem is that the WCS and > Controllers are seeing over 712 devices. We can triangulate the “area” the > device might be, but that would be going door to door. We don’t have the > man power to spend that much time searching for them. > > > > Quite a few are wireless printers and mobile hotspots, but they usually > get turned off when they aren’t in use. By sending a DoS attack to the > device doesn’t solve the wireless interference that it’s causing, but only > degrades the service the 2-3 AP’s are providing to other students. > > > > We have a Dorm/Greek/Singles living area of around 3,000 students and > covers acres of land. I’ve seen some schools putting an AP in each room, > some removing all wireless out of the dorms and others fighting the same > battle I am. At what point to you just deal with it and say “yeah our > wireless sucks because the students didn’t listen when they went through > orientation.” > > > > On the Academic side we have very very few rogues and the Wireless is rock > solid. Upper administration just doesn’t get it, I think, but we’re left > to deal with it. There are two of us that maintain everything network > related and no student help. It’s becoming a 24/7/365 work schedule, and > we’re getting burned out fast. > > > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Ian McDonald > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:13 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms > > > > Breach of your written policy prohibiting such things isn’t a disciplinary > matter? And can’t be fixed with your disciplinary system? > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *T. Shayne Ghere > *Sent:* 16 October 2014 16:11 > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless in Dorms > > > > Good morning. > > > > Let me say first off, we’re nearly a complete Cisco shop other than our > Firewalls right now. We are running 3 – Cisco 5508 Wireless Lan > Controllers and Cisco WCS. > > > > The AP’s in the Dorm’s and Greek houses are all 1142N AP’s and have been > spaced accordingly by Cisco and by us during the introduction of wireless > in the Dorms, Greeks and Single housing. > > > > We are having a heck of a time with all the interference that the students > bring with them making our wireless nearly unusable. I know this topic has > come up in the past, but this year is one of the worst we’ve seen, and the > students are getting restless. > > > > We have the ability to quarantine rogue Wireless clients, however > according to a recent Court case against a large Hotel Chain, it was > decided that on an open free wireless spectrum, we would be breaking the > law in jamming it. > > > > How have you addressed this issue? I’m about ready to ask upper > management to remove the AP’s in all the Dorm buildings and let the > students bring their own AP’s if they want wireless. Has anyone resorted > to this? > > > > Thanks for your input > > Shayne > > > > > > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
