I will try and get some information, but I believe the system currently has issues and is not enforcing.
Bruce Osborne Wireless Engineer IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Brisson [mailto:dbris...@uvm.edu] Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" in the dorms- quick Survey Interesting. Would you be willing to share what your average user consumes per month? Thanks, -dan Dan Brisson Network Engineer University of Vermont On 9/14/2015 7:18 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) wrote: > We map username to password and use bandwidth management to limit the amount > used per month. Users have the option of purchasing additional bandwidth. > This money helps subsidize our Internet connections. > > > Bruce Osborne > Wireless Engineer > IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions > > (434) 592-4229 > > LIBERTY UNIVERSITY > Training Champions for Christ since 1971 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Danny Eaton [mailto:dannyea...@rice.edu] > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 3:04 PM > Subject: Re: Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" in the dorms- > quick Survey > > Just to turn this on it’s ear a bit... > > Why not go back to an open network for student devices, with the same EULA as > they’d get be it at a Starbucks, McDonalds, hotel, or convention center? Why > are we (my self included) so hell bent on student devices connecting via > WPA-Ent and all the challenges associated with accommodating devices that > can’t? > > Here at Rice, we have just that - 1 network (eduroam), 2 network (Rice > Owls, 802.1X authenticated), and 3 network (Rice Visitor, open, unencrypted, > with a pop-up welcome page to accept our use policy). We are not necessarily > hell-bent on getting a PSK/MAC authenticated network built, but our students > are. They want to put their Wii-U, Xbox, AppleTV, Roku, Google Chromecast, > etc. on the wireless network just like they would at home, their apartment, > etc. Obviously, they wouldn't do that at Starbucks, a hotel, or the like. > They live on campus, so it's their home. > > Does data exist that shows all of this overhead we’ve created has had any > measurable benefit (for the cost), especially when the same users aren’t > concerned about over-the-air security when at the above mentioned places? > > Why do we care so much? Is there some middle-ground that is “good enough” but > provides almost the same experience as at home? > > Would our efforts be better spent implementing other beneficial technologies > such location-aware WiFi, where after the student connects all their AppleTV, > TimeMachine, and Chromecast devices, the network is smart enough to provide > them visibility of only those devices when in/near the same location e.g. > Location-aware bonjour? > > > > Jeff > > > On 9/4/15, 7:51 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > on behalf of Lee H Badman" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of > lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: > >> Where it gets interesting- broadcast and single class C required. But- this >> is a great summary of requirements. >> >> Lee Badman | Network Architect >> Information Technology Services >> 206 Machinery Hall >> 120 Smith Drive >> Syracuse, New York 13244 >> t 315.443.3003 f 315.443.4325 e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu >> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY >> syr.edu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, >> Neil M >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 10:46 AM >> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" in >> the dorms- quick Survey >> >> Here is my first pass at requirements: >> >> 1. The service must prevent or discourage devices that ARE capable of >> using 802.1x authentication from using the service. >> >> 2. The service should provide some sort of traceability of devices back >> to their owners. >> >> 3. The service must provide some method to deny access to an individual >> device. >> >> 4. The service must be easy enough to use that the average student can >> connect a device to the network in 10-15 minutes without requiring >> assistance from ITS. >> >> 5. The service must restrict access to only authorized University >> customers. >> >> 6. In the residence Halls, the service must support most the most common >> consumer devices that students might bring to campus >> >> >> We are also looking at a “Device Net” for campus for other devices that may >> not do 802.1X (freezer monitors, digital signage, instrumentation, etc.). >> >> For the residence hall device net we are thinking about blocking all access >> to campus resources and just allowing internet access. >> >> For the campus device net we thinking about RFC 1918 space restricting the >> deivces to on campus resources only. >> >> -- >> Neil Johnson >> Network Engineer >> The University of Iowa >> Phone: 319 384-0938 >> Fax: 319 335-2951 >> E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu >> >> >> >>> On Sep 4, 2015, at 6:46 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) >>> <bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote: >>> >>> What are you calling a Device Net? >>> >>> We have an open SSID with a custom captive portal using the ClearPass eTIPS >>> API. >>> >>> We use this SSID for onboarding to 802.1X with Cloudpath XpressConnect >>> Wizard, registering a non-8012.1X device Endpoint in ClearPass (with >>> AirGroup device registration for Apple-TV) and for permitting non-802.1X >>> network access, blocking out internal web server & blackboard servers. If >>> devices try to go to these sites, they are redirected to Cloudpath >>> XpressConnect Wizard. >>> >>> I am leaving on vacation for a week, so it may take me a while to >>> resond further >>> >>> Bruce Osborne >>> Wireless Engineer >>> IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions >>> >>> (434) 592-4229 >>> >>> LIBERTY UNIVERSITY >>> Training Champions for Christ since 1971 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Johnson, Neil M [mailto:neil-john...@uiowa.edu] >>> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 12:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" in the dorms- >>> quick Survey >>> >>> We are investigating a device net at UofI so, >>> >>> I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has implemented a Device >>> Net with Clearpass. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -Neil >>> >>> -- >>> Neil Johnson >>> Network Engineer >>> The University of Iowa >>> Phone: 319 384-0938 >>> Fax: 319 335-2951 >>> E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 7:24 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is an elegance in your wisdom, Chuck. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck >>>> Enfield >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 5:54 PM >>>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" >>>> in the dorms- quick Survey >>>> >>>> Don’t tell me. Ignorance is bliss. Man, am I happy! >>>> >>>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv >>>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of David R. >>>> Morton >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 5:41 PM >>>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU >>>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Supporting "those other Wi-Fi devices" >>>> in the dorms- quick Survey >>>> >>>> Lee, >>>> >>>> Are you going to share the results of this survey as well? >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> David Morton >>>> >>>> Director, Mobile Communications >>>> Service Owner: Wi-Fi, Mobile & HuskyTV University of Washington >>>> dmor...@u.washington.edu tel 206.221.7814 >>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> As we look forward in how we service our residential spaces for >>>> Wi-Fi, I’ve put together a quick survey on if/what other schools >>>> are doing (and not doing) for supporting the perplexing gadgets >>>> (TVs, games, entertainment dongles, etc) over Wi-Fi. Please >>>> consider contributing at >>>> >>>> https://www.quicksurveys.com/s/Wc92H >>>> >>>> I’ll run this for two weeks, will post just a couple more invites on each >>>> list in that period (so you know to expect a couple more… kind of advance >>>> spam warning) and will open the results page up for both lists at the end. >>>> I know I’m not the only one contemplating these questions. Should take >>>> minutes to sail through, but decent participation could really help others >>>> in their own thoughts about this challenging paradigm. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lee Badman | Network Architect >>>> Information Technology Services >>>> 206 Machinery Hall >>>> 120 Smith Drive >>>> Syracuse, New York 13244 >>>> t 315.443.3003 f 315.443.4325 e lhbad...@syr.edu w its.syr.edu >>>> SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY >>>> syr.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>> >>>> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>>> ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE >>>> Constituent Group discussion list can be found at >>>> http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>> >>> ********** >>> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >>> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>> >>> >>> ********** >>> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >>> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >>> >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> >> >> ********** >> Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent >> Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. >> > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > !DSPAM:911,55e9e94a181278253487612! > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** > Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent > Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
