So basically, you have someone who’s livelihood depends on charging you for site surveys and design, telling you why using a simple one AP per room is a bad idea. I certainly wouldn’t disagree with some of his findings when when designing around 2.4, but when designing around 5 GHz, and especially .11ac, many of the concerns necessitating comprehensive surveys (even in one AP per room deployments) tend to evaporate.
Focusing on 5-GHz: His argument is then about installing more AP’s then necessary and wasting money, which is 100% valid, but does that theoretical waste exceed the cost of the survey? Is the one AP per classroom over designed for the legacy, current, or future standards? The write up also shows how quickly best practices change when new standards emerge e.g. where -65 dB was sufficient for the top rate in 802.11n (20-MHz channel), in .11ac that requirement is now -59 dBm in 20-MHz, and -49 dBm in 160-MHz. This is why I say it’s inevitable that we’ll get to one (or more) APs per room if the desire is to maximize performance. It’s a really interesting conversation especially if one starts to consider tuition cost per minute of class time as a factor in a design. Last but not least, some of his assumptions don’t necessarily hold up in higher-ed, and more so between private/public. I’ll also go out on a limb and say that with the advent of flex-radios, we’re well on our way to solving 2.4 GHz problem. 2.4-GHz can gracefully ride into the sunset while those one AP per classroom devices slowly transition to running fulltime as two 5-GHz radios. Jeff From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Samuel Clements <[email protected]> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 27, 2016 at 7:25 AM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Beacon Intervals Sure, but there is a great writeup on that exact topic that does a good job in my stead: http://www.wlanpros.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Why-One-AP-Per-Classroom-Approach-is-Wrong-.v3.pdf In short, that may be a design you end up with, but assuming it's correct to begin with is a premise that should not be used. Proper WiFi design (including disabling radios or converting them to 5GHz radios if you have hardware that can do that) is of paramount importance in any environment that believes their network is of any measurable importance. Remember that disabling lower data rates & changing beacon intervals can *mitigate* poor design - but there is always a trade off (client compatibility being chiefest). I don't necessarily disagree that in some environments, one AP per classroom is what you would net, but I've seen far too many environments where they over bought and a 1.5 classroom per AP (or some other measure) would have supported the load just fine. I hate to see people waste money when it could have gone to some other area of technology to further the end goal - education. -Sam On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Jeffrey D. Sessler <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Sam, would you please explain your position on one AP per classroom being a mis-design? Do you have data on this you could share? In my environment, I’ve found that in order to properly deploy 5 Ghz and .11ac, it’s pretty much inevitable that we’ll get to one AP per room, especially if one desires consistent and universal coverage. Data from existing spaces clearly show gaps in 5GHz coverage when using an every-other room scheme. Now if you are talking about 2.4 GHz I may agree with you, but even there, with removal of lower data rates, and a low-power microcell design, the data suggests it’s working very well. Jeff From: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Samuel Clements <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 6:38 PM To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Beacon Intervals Remember folks, there is such a thing as too much RF and in the edu space, this occurs quite commonly due to the One AP per Classroom mis-design advice that was making the rounds some time ago... -Sam ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
