I only use NPS for Cisco RADIUS auth.  Otherwise, all of our authentication
hits Extreme NAC (uses FreeRADIUS as a backend).  I dislike NPS very much.




*--Jeremy L. Gibbs*
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Mike Atkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> We are using Microsoft Event log view for NPS/security and are also
> exporting security logs daily to another system that we built to massage
> the information in order to get stats and summarize errors.  We have
> Microsoft System Center that I believe can be expanded to do additional
> reporting and alerting but we have been unsuccessful in getting the other
> groups to implement it.
>
>
>
> I used perfmon for a very short period when I was initially looking at way
> to graph rates over a 24 hour period and was quickly discouraged.  I did
> not have a working baseline to compare to and I could not find a published
> spec.  Our identity group opened a ticket with Microsoft and never got a
> solid # on rates.  I believe the response was “depends on your server
> resources.”  I was looking at success and failure rates but the problem at
> the time was NPS just stopped responding to the supplicant.  I did not see
> a counter for something like that.  Maybe I did not look hard enough and
> there is a way to calculate it.  I should probably take another look if you
> find it useful.
>
>
>
> A typical troubleshooting scenario was “everyone in this room was
> disconnected!”  I ask the typical question, “did everyone get disconnected
> at the same time.”  Response is “yes!”  I ask “so everyone got disconnected
> at the very same minute?”  Response, “well no, but during the meeting most
> of us got disconnected.”  I reply “most not everyone?.?.?…..”  J  You
> know how it goes.  In the end I had to look at information far enough back
> that it is/was very difficult to use perfmon.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Mike Atkins *
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Office of Information Technology
>
> University of Notre Dame
>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Boardman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:49 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft NPS as RADIUS for 802.1X Wi-Fi?
>
>
>
> ​Mike
>
> Regarding the Troubleshooting and debug challenges with NPS are you
> exporting the MS events to a log collector or using the server's native
> event viewer? How useful have you found the PerfMon RADIUS metrics?
>
>
>
>
>
> |Bruce Boardman, Network Engineer, Syracuse University -  315 412-4156
>
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>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv <
> [email protected]> on behalf of Mike Atkins <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:44 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft NPS as RADIUS for 802.1X Wi-Fi?
>
>
>
> Lee,
>
> We use Microsoft NPS for radius on dot1x wireless (ND-secure & eduroam.)
> Troubleshooting and getting debug information has been very difficult.
> Finding a deployment guide on expected performance/load is also impossible
> to find.  I think configuration is absolutely key.  My impression is either
> it works great or it does not.
>
>
>
> Dennis,
>
> I think we are doing the realm stripping you are talking about using NPS.
> Our identity management group has two policies configured for eduroam.  The
> first policy says identity @nd.edu authenticate PEAP requests on the
> local server.  The second policy says “@” forward to the two eduroam.us
> “servers.”  There are a couple other policies for off campus users that get
> forwarded from eduroam.us servers.  Maybe not what you are talking about
> but just thought I would chime in just in case.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Mike Atkins *
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Office of Information Technology
>
> University of Notre Dame
>
> Phone: 574-631-7210
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Lee H Badman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 9:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Microsoft NPS as RADIUS for 802.1X Wi-Fi?
>
>
>
> Hello to the awesome group.
>
>
>
> We’ve used Cisco ACS with general satisfaction for many years as the
> RADIUS solution for our very, very large WLAN’s 802.1X authentication. We
> also have Aruba Clearpass in-house for guest wireless, and have poked
> around at ISE a bit. We’re weighing replacing our aging ACS environment,
> but as many of you know times are changing. When you shop for RADIUS, you
> have to wade through the fog of NAC systems because everything is getting
> ever more “feature rich”. For major vendors, RADIUS is just a slice of NAC
> now, and since everybody “is a software company!” licensing can be ugly.
> I’m not slamming those who find value in the many interesting features that
> the likes of ISE and Clearpass offer, but I also can’t help but be drawn to
> Microsoft NPS when I think about going forward with simple RADIUS.
>
>
>
> Way back when, we avoided Microsoft in this role as the reporting wasn’t
> particularly strong when it came time to troubleshoot clients. We **may**
> have found relief to this through Splunk, and also enjoy a robust Windows
> server environment staffed by absolutely brilliant MS-minded veteran
> admins.
>
>
>
> All that being said- is anyone using NPS as their RADIUS solution for a
> large secure WLAN environment? Can you share likes, dislikes, regrets,
> endorsements, horror stories, tales of success, etc?
>
>
>
>
>
> (Any vendor reps lurking- no, I’m not open to hearing about other RADIUS
> solutions. Please, no calls or emails)
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards-
>
>
>
> *Lee Badman* | CWNE #200 | Network Architect
>
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