With a bad SNR, you might want to check the APs nearby the one they are trying 
to connect to and see if they are on the same channel, or have adjacent or 
overlapping channels.  If you are running 80MHz or 40 MHz channels, it is very 
easy to have cross over.  I would also see if there are non-college equipment 
running on that channel and causing interference.


Seth Bean
Administrator of Networks and Telecommunications
APA Union Chapter President
Massachusetts College of Liberal Arts
413.662.5022
413.663.1276

375 Church Street
North Adams,
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Chuck,

We checked bar strength.  Macs were in the 2nd out of 3 bars.  PC’s were 
getting 4 out of 5.  I didn’t check the phones.  We did bandwidth testing and 
Macs were below 10Mb while PC’s were averaging around 150Mb.  I did check 
Airwave for possible issues.  It suggested a poor SNR value for at least one of 
the Macs.  I didn’t know what to make of that since the PC’s were not having 
that issue.  Health was not good.

  Also, the Macs would drop connections and sometimes have random difficulty in 
connecting.  No issues with the PC’s or droids.

  It was basic testing at this point, but there was no doubt that Macs 
struggled performance wise while PC’s didn’t.  I do need to go back and make 
sure they are all using the same AP.  I did check on one Mac, but I didn’t 
verify it for all of them.

  Tim



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Tim,



If you don’t mind my asking, how are you assessing the performance?



Chuck Enfield

Manager, Wireless & Cellular

Penn State IT

814-863-8715



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Wifi experts,



We are running Aruba MM with two controllers on 8.7.3.  Our AP’s are mostly 
AP-225’s.

I have had complaints from one of our tech rooms that they were getting a poor 
signal.  I finally got around to testing that room out.  The location of the AP 
to this room is in an adjacent room.  When I test with Windows PC’s and Droid 
phones, the signal and performance is just fine.  When we tested with Macs and 
iphones, the signal strength was amazingly weak for all of them.  We tested 
with two Macs and two iphones as well as multiple PC’s and Android phones.  
Only the Apple devices had weak signals.  Have any of you experienced a weaker 
antenna performance with your Apple devices on your campuses?



If I put an AP in the room, the Apple devices are fine.  But I am surprised I 
would have to do this.  I would not have expected Apple devices to have weaker 
antennas.



I did check in Airwave to make sure at least one of the Macs was still 
connecting to the same AP.  Any thoughts from anyone?





Tim Tyler

Network Engineer

Beloit College



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