The more secure way would be to put it outside the firewall, use LEAP or
EAP/TLS for authentication and VPN back into the corp. net. Static WEP alone
is easily cracked but you will still have a secondary auth. To get past to
get to the corp. net. But the problem is that if someone gets associated to
your wireless segment then any systms on that segment and the AP is
vulnerable and will be compromised and then they get past your F/W. 

-d

-----Original Message-----
From: Lile Elam [mailto:lile@;art.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [BAWUG] AP placement on network ?



Hi folks,

So I have a client who had an AP on their internal business network which
was completely open... no password or WEP was enabled. Needless to say,
anyone could connect to any machine on their network from the street.

I suggested that we put the AP on the outside of their firewall 
and leave it open. We tried this but it turns out that access to inside
machines was still available.

So we turned on WEP and set a password on the AP for the network. 

Now I was talking with a few network geeks in a hottub about this and we
were discussing what the best configuration would be... 
the majority of response was that I should move the AP back into the
internal network and leave WEP on. 

This was a surprise... I would have thought that you would want to keep the
AP in the DMZ zone... and not on the internal network. Also, I am wondering
why people could see the internal network 
machines from the DMZ... was the router not really protecting the internal
network?

Ideally I would like to set up such clients with AP's in the DMZ zones that
are completely open so that there will be more public access points. 

Would love to hear folks comments on the above... and ideas on 
what the best config would be. 

thanks,

-lile

hacker artist
GeekMaids.Com - Creating Order out of Chaos... Cleaning and Beyond!

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