I've been holding off on posting to the thread 'cause I"m so damned busy
lately, but since someone invoked me by name, I've been pulled out of my
shell. :-)

Yes, this is a core feature of the Sputnik Enterprise Gateway and
Wireless Router - allowing you to put your AP inside your firewall, but
forcing all users to strongly authenticate before being given access,
via a local authentication agent and local datastore.

Enrique, thanks for the vote of confidence, we're working our assess off
getting something really cool to show (and sell) to you folks ASAP.

/me re-enters lurker mode

Dave

On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 17:54, Enrique LaRoche wrote:
> I think this problem is the single biggest impediment to either prolific
> hotspots or mesh networks.
> I think a modified Sputnik paradigm or some simple steps to impliment this
> would be one of the best things this group could do for the community as a
> whole.
> 
> Hey David (Sifrey)I would have no problem Purchasing your software at a
> price of under $100.00 if the authentication was local as an option.
> Same Idea as before but local authentication and default separation of the
> Lan from the Wireless.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:wireless-admin@;lists.bawug.org]On Behalf Of Seoane, Dan
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 4:26 PM
> To: 'Lile Elam'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] AP placement on network ?
> 
> 
> The more secure way would be to put it outside the firewall, use LEAP or
> EAP/TLS for authentication and VPN back into the corp. net. Static WEP alone
> is easily cracked but you will still have a secondary auth. To get past to
> get to the corp. net. But the problem is that if someone gets associated to
> your wireless segment then any systms on that segment and the AP is
> vulnerable and will be compromised and then they get past your F/W.
> 
> -d
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lile Elam [mailto:lile@;art.net]
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [BAWUG] AP placement on network ?
> 
> 
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> So I have a client who had an AP on their internal business network which
> was completely open... no password or WEP was enabled. Needless to say,
> anyone could connect to any machine on their network from the street.
> 
> I suggested that we put the AP on the outside of their firewall
> and leave it open. We tried this but it turns out that access to inside
> machines was still available.
> 
> So we turned on WEP and set a password on the AP for the network.
> 
> Now I was talking with a few network geeks in a hottub about this and we
> were discussing what the best configuration would be...
> the majority of response was that I should move the AP back into the
> internal network and leave WEP on.
> 
> This was a surprise... I would have thought that you would want to keep the
> AP in the DMZ zone... and not on the internal network. Also, I am wondering
> why people could see the internal network
> machines from the DMZ... was the router not really protecting the internal
> network?
> 
> Ideally I would like to set up such clients with AP's in the DMZ zones that
> are completely open so that there will be more public access points.
> 
> Would love to hear folks comments on the above... and ideas on
> what the best config would be.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> -lile
> 
> hacker artist
> GeekMaids.Com - Creating Order out of Chaos... Cleaning and Beyond!
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