So Macintosh users are SOL?

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 10:18, Enrique LaRoche wrote:
> Do your registration on one of their dialup lines.
> or get IE6
> Or use an older version of Enternet.
> Ultimately the Windoze world has a cost, "you kind of have to go along with
> the program" at least at some minimal level.

My minimal level is HTML.  This is the web, not AOL or MSN.

Dave

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David L. Sifry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM
> To: Enrique LaRoche
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless
> 
> 
> <Rant Mode>
> 
> Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't
> have IE 5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED.  In the end, I had to pull out
> my laptop, run WinXP in VMWare just  so that I could complete the
> freakin' PPPoE registration process with IE 6.  And all of this was
> because the idiots at SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific
> javascript form that tried to correct mistakes for you.  If they had
> added a simple HTML form for those of us who are using, oh say, Macs or
> older windoze boxes, it would have been CUSTOMER FRIENDLY...
> 
> Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm
> glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff.
> Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy
> policy, btw?  Whew!  Just the bandwidth, please.
> 
> </Rant mode>
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote:
> > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these
> issues.
> > You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects.
> > I have it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem.
> > It can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot
> > with SBC support.
> > Loading their software wont do anything bad to your computer.
> > What a load of smelly Cod's heads...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless
> >
> >
> > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer.  My brother just signed
> > up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to load their CD
> on
> > your system and connect directly to complete your installation.  The only
> > way around this is to sign up on line, so you can pick your user name and
> > password before they activate your account.  This is very important, as
> > loading their softwrae will DESTROY your ability to do anything with that
> > computer ever again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old
> > pentium pc and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it
> destroys
> > your system.  Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow
> > the first posts instructions.  Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the remote
> > administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple vulnerabilities
> > in it.  Other than that, I have helped several others set up this way, and
> > am running this way myself, very happily, for over two years.  Very seldom
> > necessary to reboot unless you are running something pre-win2k......
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM
> > To: David L. Sifry; r jain
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless
> >
> >
> > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so you
> > don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC DSL on
> you
> > computer.
> > At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your Linksys router, select the
> PPPoE
> > login method with your SBC login name/password and the Keep Alive option.
> > Then go to the Status tab page and press the Connect button.  The router
> > will then display a message indicating that you are connected.  Everything
> > should work fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and
> router
> > to re-synch with this new PPPoE connection.
> > Sometimes I do have to reboot my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge
> > after I re-connect my router to my SBC connection.  But once I connect, I
> > leave my router on with the connection alive and only reboot my router
> about
> > once a week.
> > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too.
> > -chris
> >  "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL
> > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b
> > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11.
> >
> > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet
> > deal.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote:
> > > Friends:
> > >
> > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not
> > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search)
> > >
> > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem
> > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop.
> > >
> > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800
> > > or so option from SBC.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > --rajiv
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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