Sure, but OSX is brand new. The point, however, is that you shouldn't have to force people to buy new computers just to get a DSL line. Could you imagine us discussing this in any other industry? Sorry, your VCR won't work with this television because it is 8 years old. Sorry, your fax machine won't work with this phone line because it is 8 years old. Sorry, your car won't work with gasoline because it is 8 years old...
All the SBC people need to do is make available a registration screen that uses minimal javascript elements, so that as long as you have a web browser, you can get online with whatever device you use to access the internet. OK, back to lurking for me, I've got work to do... Dave On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 10:37, Ian Emmons wrote: > I hat to point it out but 95 is going on 8 years old and is quite > obsolete (which is why MS refuses to support it any longer) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David L. Sifry > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:09 AM > To: Enrique LaRoche > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > <Rant Mode> > > Yeah, just try doing it on a windows 95 box or on a box that doesn't > have IE 5.5 or later ALREADY INSTALLED. In the end, I had to pull out > my laptop, run WinXP in VMWare just so that I could complete the > freakin' PPPoE registration process with IE 6. And all of this was > because the idiots at SBC had set up a "super-duper" IE-specific > javascript form that tried to correct mistakes for you. If they had > added a simple HTML form for those of us who are using, oh say, Macs or > older windoze boxes, it would have been CUSTOMER FRIENDLY... > > Grrr, I wasted far too much time with their idiotic setup procedure, I'm > glad that I didn't set up any of the privacy-infringing yahoo stuff. > Have you looked at the Yahoo-SBC terms of service and their privacy > policy, btw? Whew! Just the bandwidth, please. > > </Rant mode> > > Dave > > On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 09:58, Enrique LaRoche wrote: > > Now I know why my customers are willing to pay for my help on these > > issues. You can load the Enternet software with no bad effects. I have > > > it loaded on win xp win 2k pro 98 me etc... This is not a problem. It > > can even be helpful to have it installed if you need to trouble shoot > > with SBC support. Loading their software wont do anything bad to your > > computer. What a load of smelly Cod's heads... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:38 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > Only problem with that is for a NEW SBC customer. My brother just > > signed up, and they mail you all your equipment and REQUIRE you to > > load their CD on your system and connect directly to complete your > > installation. The only way around this is to sign up on line, so you > > can pick your user name and password before they activate your > > account. This is very important, as loading their softwrae will > > DESTROY your ability to do anything with that computer ever > > again......if you must load it, I suggest getting an old pentium pc > > and loading the crap on that, so you won't care when it destroys your > > system. Once you have your user name and password setup, then follow > > the first posts instructions. Make CERTAIN that you DISABLE the > > remote administration on any Linksys router as there are multiple > > vulnerabilities in it. Other than that, I have helped several others > > set up this way, and am running this way myself, very happily, for > > over two years. Very seldom necessary to reboot unless you are > > running something pre-win2k...... > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:23 AM > > To: David L. Sifry; r jain > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] SBC DSL and Wireless > > > > > > The Linksys BEFW11S4 router can also establish the PPPoE connection so > > > you don't have install any of the applications supplied by Yahoo! SBC > > DSL on you computer. At the bottom of the Setup tab page in your > > Linksys router, select the PPPoE login method with your SBC login > > name/password and the Keep Alive option. Then go to the Status tab > > page and press the Connect button. The router will then display a > > message indicating that you are connected. Everything should work > > fine after waiting about 30 seconds for your computer and router to > > re-synch with this new PPPoE connection. Sometimes I do have to reboot > > > my laptop and WSB11 Linksys Wireless Bridge after I re-connect my > > router to my SBC connection. But once I connect, I leave my router on > > > with the connection alive and only reboot my router about once a week. > > Works with WEP and MAC filtering, too. > > -chris > > "David L. Sifry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A linksys BEFW11S4 works great - connect the WAN hookup to the DSL > > modem, and you've got a 5 port hub for ethernet as well as 802.11b > > wireless. You configure PPPoE on the WPC-11. > > > > They run about $90 on Amazon and there's a $10 rebate - $80 is a sweet > > > deal. > > > > Dave > > > > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 20:24, r jain wrote: > > > Friends: > > > > > > First, if this has been already answered - my apologies (could not > > > find in archives in 1/2 hr of search) > > > > > > I just signed up with SBC DSL and was given a SpeedStream DSL Modem > > > with one ethernet port to connect to a computer/laptop. > > > > > > I want to add wireless network and am at a lost except to buy a $800 > > > > or so option from SBC. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > --rajiv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________! > > > ___________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > > -- > > David L. Sifry > > GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html > > Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 > > > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > Chris McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- David L. Sifry GPG Key: http://www.sifry.com/david/key.html Key Fingerprint: 7E60 4EDE EB5F AA2D 2F25 8CD3 FE17 C4F8 BDE8 D1B0 -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
