You're right. You are Biased. :) LOL - You probably make a good salesman.
That's ok though, you're in the right business. I saw your site and the pricing and it's comparable to what I've been quoted. Except for that hefty installation charge. Anything you can do about that for a two-three year contract ?? Anyway, this is getting slightly off topic for this thread. The pricing and equipment we can argue about later since it's just in the $100-200 price differential. I am more interested in finding out: 1. Is there anything currently happening in Santa Clara with a wireless co-op or WISP ? 2. Who is interested in talking more about a wireless co-op in Santa Clara and throwing around ideas offline to discuss this further. 3. Who might be interested in becoming a client for said wireless co-op and how to get more people interested ? The possibilities are endless, but my checkbook is not. -- Matt --- Dan Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're looking at a T1 for $550 then this is probably not a real T1. > > Unless this is a favor from a friend or does not include bandwidth > charges > this might not be a clear/full T1. Some ISP's will implement a PPP > over ATM > "T1". This usually goes through the same (almost always very over > subscribed) ATM network that the ISP provides access to it's DSL > customers. > After all the overhead you're lucky if you get a meg out of it. The > other > disadvantage is also latency. 20-30ms to your default gateway is not > uncommon and can be in the hundreds of ms to the next hop. > > Now I am a little biased (since my company offers T1 service as one of > it's > main products). Our list pricing is $699 and only in very rare cases > we're > not able to match or beat a competitors T1 pricing. > > If I were you I'd be very weary. You shouldn't have to pay $550 for > DSL > equivalent service. > > Just my $.02 > > Dan. > Layer42.Net > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:24:03PM -0700, Matt Almgren wrote: > > Wow! We're practically neighbors! :) Unless you are on the other > side > > of San Thomas or Homestead. I'm within 100' of Nicholson and > Robiero. > > Just driving around I have seen a few grid antennas pointed towards > the > > West, but not sure if they're connecting to anything or not. > > > > Currently, I just got a wireless card and small antennae, along with > my > > own wireless network at home, but I have been doing research and it > looks > > promising. > > > > I'm just throwing around numbers, but getting about 20 neighbors at > > $50/month would eaily cover the cost of a T1 line. (I checked > already > > and they run about 550 for 2yr aggreement with local loop, router, > and > > included installation) to my house. I can see more rooftops than > that > > from my house. The hard part I see is just getting people involved > and > > finding a cheap way to install the client antennaes. I've looked > around > > at other community co-op web sites and it CAN be done with the right > > planning and marketing to people. Or getting them to dump Comcast at > > 49/month and go wireless. :) > > > > This something that I definitely want to look into and get feedback > from > > others, especially if you live nearby and know of possible problems, > > ideas, etc.... > > > > - Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Matt, > > > > > > Where are you, exactly? There are a couple of us near > Homestead/San > > > Tomas > > > Expy who are thinking of pooling our access, mainly for > reliability, > > > but who > > > knows... And I keep meaning to cruise the neighborhood with > > > NetStumbler to > > > see who else might be able to participate. > > > > > > -- > > > Nick Arnett > > > Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Almgren > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 3:10 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: [BAWUG] Co-op in Santa Clara ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a co-op or cheap WISP either starting or > already > > > > formed in Santa Clara ? Not the county, but the city. If so, > please > > > > send me any pertinent information. I am familiar with BARWN, but > it > > > > doesn't seem to stretch that far down into the south bay. I'd > like > > > to > > > > get involved with either helping with network infrastructure or > just > > > > being a client. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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