> We've been finding the noise floor around -98 dBm these days, even in
> the vicinity of the 2.4GHz death ray that we got the experimental
> license for :)
> 
> This noise floor is only a limiting factor if you use a transmission
> method with no coding gain (certainly not the case with these 802.11
> systems).  GPS is a prime example of a system that must operate below
> the nominal noise floor.

Not only GPS :)
For example  802.11b :

Thermal noise: -100.6 dBm,  
22MHz,50 Om, temperature +20C.

SNR = -10.5 dB for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (broadband noise).
Theoretical limit of [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> Rx_lim = -111.1 dBm !!!


-Ivan



> 
> Note also that unlicensed is very different from unregulated.   One can
> only the unlicensed bands with Part 15 certified equipment unless the
> products fall under the 15.23 home-built devices exclusion.  Any
> prototype devices require experimental licenses.
> 
> ==S
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> Message: 6
> From: "Moebius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Tim Pozar'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Julian Bond'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Atheros announcement
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:54:31 -0700
> 
> Too bad the noise floor in most parts the bay area is at around -95 ->
> -85 these days...
> 
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